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TOPIC: Tragic

zorro Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #43

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Right now it’s not important what happens in public (and it’s a complicated situation today with the Len Hall Game) - let’s hope the club’s leaders are in there supporting the players, especially our wonderful indigenous guys who must be gutted, and that the club is playing a constructive part in supporting Shane’s family.
The best we, as supporters, can do is keep Shane in our private thoughts today.
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shane Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #44

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I think the club has to accept that, right or wrong, they are a major factor in the path Yarran went down that lead to him taking his life, and not just treat his death as that of someone who they crossed paths with in the night.

Two sentences that read like a stock condolence message, credited to the president was poor. Not taking a moment during the game was poor. It showed a lack of respect on many levels.
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docked Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #45

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I admit to hoping that after the game the players would have gathered in a circle in the middle of the ground, heads bowed, and taken a silent moment to remember him. I know they will all be feeling things in their own way and are probably deeply affected by it all, but a public display would have been appreciated by the fans.

Not blaming the players for anything, just saying what I would have liked to see.
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DS Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #46

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I really don’t wish to start a debate on this but I do want to say I disagree with you shane on a couple of things you said above. Firstly, to say the club was a “major factor” in Shane going down the path to taking his life is a truly horrible thing to say. I understand fully the emotion behind you making that statement but it is unfair to say the least.

Secondly, it needs to be the players who decide if a moment is taken during the game in memory. For the club to direct the players that they must do so would have been shallow. It needs to be player driven to be meaningful. The fact that most if not all of the indigenous boys visited Shane’s Mum on Friday night is a much more meaningful gesture. They did so because they wanted to, not because they were told to.

This is a heartbreaking outcome and I really think we need to be respectful of everyone if we are going to discuss it. Personally I would rather we just pay tribute to Shane Yarran.
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Sultan Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #47

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What a complete load of crap Shane. It’s a football club, or if you like workplace, not the halfway house/rehab centre your posts indicate you would like it it to be.
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expat Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #48

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I think this says it all

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Corporal Agarn Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #49

Corporal Agarn
Roly did say some poignant words in his presser.
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purple33 Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #50

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Shane is right. Our club does have culpability in this. At a level that they may never really understand.

The club’s statement was tardy, depersonalised and poor. The lack of club acknowledgement at the game was disappointing but there may be bigger reasons.

Ross alluded to the fact there are a lot of cultural sensitivities at play in how the club was dealing with this in his presser, and it was-after all-a mere 24 hours after his death.

It was clear in his presser that Ross was devastated and gutted. Ross’s response was much more personal than Alcock’s. He knew him.

After our games, Ross and the coaching staff usually walk down from the box and straight down into the rooms, while the boys stay on the ground and do their thing. Last night Ross waited alone until SonSon had done media and given out the hats; waited for him to come back round the boundary to join the rest of the team, and the two shared a private moment and a long hug before Ross left the ground.

That, SonSon’s first and Mundy’s hug of Sonny before the banner, and other small acts between players throughout the game: those are more personal a tribute to Yarran than a corporate manufactured display of grief would be, anyway. There was an intimacy of raw grief last night we had the saddest of privileges to share.

How the club respond this week, when the adrenaline of initial shock wears off for the players, reality sets in, our players attend their friend’s funeral... This is when we will see the degree of how our club’s ignorance of its culpability in Shane’s last few years is writ large, I suspect. I hope I’m wrong.
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Matebe Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #51

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It's a sad and tragic story, with heartfelt sympathy for family, friends and loved ones.

But to speculate on the club's responsibility for the outcome, and what they have and haven't done to support the person, is completely inappropriate and serves no good purpose.

Yeah, on face value I was pissed off with the club's statement yesterday, but without first hand knowledge of all the facts of what transpired within the club over the years, I'm really not in a position to judge.
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freo00 Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #52

freo00
R.I.P. S.Y.
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Down on down Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #53

Down on down
I don't think there should be fingerpointing in this forum over the clubs response to an extremely sad event or perceptions of culpability. We are better than that. It's far better to demonstrate respect Shane Yarran's family by remembering what he did for Fremantle FC in his short time with us and the positive memories associated within that time frame.
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goodie Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #54

goodie
What a load of crap Shane. We choose our own paths.
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purple33 Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #55

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Some people are given easier paths with which to make choices from. And for some people, sometimes it feels like there’s no choices at all.
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Montrachet Tragic 6 years 3 weeks ago #56

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Far as tell the club offered Shane an amazing opportunity, and unfortunately he could not overcome his demons and take advantage of it.
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