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TOPIC: Giants v Freo

guy smiley Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #169

guy smiley
I get the idea you're pushing Goodie but we all know there's more to it than just grabbing forwards...

if we're going to look at drafting we should look at the picks they had each time and who was available for that pick at that draft.

Yeah, there's probably a couple of talls we could have grabbed but you have to also weigh up the talent that was picked up. Overall the drafting and recruiting has been pretty solid. There aren't a lot of talls that are available and they can take a while to hit their straps. Alex Pearse played a little forward in his first games and looked like he could hold that down, by the way... but he's too valuable down back for now.
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guy smiley Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #170

guy smiley
Just watching Sam Menegola kicking a nice set shot for the Cats...
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goodie Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #171

goodie
In general I agree that our drafting is pretty good. In particular Fremantle have been good at finding quality players further down the draft order. But at some point you have to draft to your needs, especially when they are so glaringly obvious.
Going forward, I see us in two or three years having a team that can challenge for the top four. The midfield is very good and the backline looks like it could become something special. But the forward line is a huge concern that I still can’t see a solution to.
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freo00 Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #172

freo00
After 1/2 way through the year we may go toward looking for some more draft picks for next year .

We will be resting some and some injuries .

remember that we are in the second year of a 4 year re - everything .
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The_Yeti Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #173

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Well, I'm going to disagree with a few on here but while we don't have a Franklin or a Hogan, what we do have is workable. All we need to do is make the best use of what we have and that generally means not playing what you have behind the ball.

Leaving Ballantyne as the only stay at home forward isn't going to cut it. It hasn't worked in the past and I'll go out on a limb here and say it worn't work in the future. You need a genuine and mobile tall as a stay at home forward along with a speedy small.

Then we get back to training and structuring in the forward line. Blokes need to be taught not to run into vacant spaces where our leading forwards should be running into. Then you have to train the forwards into leading. I'm pretty sure Hale would be across all that or at least he should be, so somebody needs to look at why this isn't happening.

If we can get the forward structure sorted out, our mids would be in a better position to actually connect with our forward line. Right now I'm generally seeing either long kicks to the top of the square (which is how we train) and that usually doesn't work. What has been working to an extent in the two game we won this year is players looking for leads and dare I say it, the player that leads the most in the forward line is actually Ballantyne and thats just wrong

Lets start with getting the basics right with the players we have and getting the best out of them. Putting it down on the players we don't have is making excuses and giving people an out when they are not performing.

The alternative is we senselessly talk up things before each and then ruthlessly make excuses when it fails.
Egurls Suck!
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391 Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #174

391
I always find Dockerland more fun when we’re losing.

Hawks just chopped Melbourne.

Better game plan, better executed.

At one point Jimmy Bartel mentioned Hawks best team in AFL for second quarters by scoring differential (not sure if he made that up) and his rationale was no one on AFL is better at making adjustments in game than Clarkson. (And his team execute them).

I’m ok with Roly as a coach but anyone remember the last time he made a positional switch or strategy change mid game which got us 4 points?
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Red Rooster Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #175

Red Rooster
Yes,Menegola,a guy with a great tank who can kick goals is surely someone who would fit into Roly’s game plan.When they pushed Mundy behind the ball to limit the damage,our forward options dried up.
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Raglan Matt Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #176

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It is bull$%&t to say we need our forwards in the backline to get hold of the footy. Our backline and midfield are good enough to get the ball themselves. They are also good enough to kick it forward. Our forwards have prove this year, that when 4 or 5 of them are presenting options IN the forward line, leading at the footy, we score goals. So to say we can't win the footy without 18 players behind the ball is a load of it.

The reason coaches want 36 players around the ball, is because it leads to the only play in the game that is structured, the stoppage, which gives them a chance to justify their huge pay packets. Besides Clarkson and Scott the Cat, no other coach lets his players off the leash much during games, and RoLy is one of the most controlling.
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Drubbing Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #177

Drubbing
I don't think we have, or have ever had a problem with the quality of our players. We have a good enough forward line, if we use it. That means leaving two of - Walters, Ballantyne, Taberner or McCarthy - forward of the ball at all times. That drags 2 defender back.

Borrowing an analogy from hockey, which I play. We play more set positions, and I realise this isn't the go in AFL these days. But what it does, is makes players more accountable to win their contests. Then the better organised and more skilled team will generally win.

That was our team yesterday, in our half and full back lines we had no one to mark, so we pushed up. The other team had allowed us to press them into their half. They got few forward entries and even fewer shots on goal, as they were often stopped at half forward. A bit like Freo really.
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KingKepler Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #178

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Opposition teams and coaches must love it when we revert to our default game plan of the last 3 years.

It is what they prepare for and know exactly how to cut through it.

Playing a way which stops ourselves from scoring and moderately slows the opposition from scoring will win us zero games of footy against good opposition.

I was feeling a bit more hopeful after the last two weeks but this game just showed how predictable and ineffective our coaching can be at times.

I really liked what we did in the first quarter and to an extent even in the second quarter. Why we players are instructed to shift away from that when the opposition kicks a few goals is confusing. If it is confusing for the spectator it must be the same for the players.

I realise it can be important to stem the bleeding when the other side gets on top but this needs to be done for a very short period and then must be followed by sustained attacking play. If it doesn't work out then it is because the opposition are better.

I hate seeing the potential this team has being wasted. The potential I am talking about is the first quarter and various passages of play in the previous two weeks.

To sum it up it brings a tear to my eye when guys like Stephen hill look up to kick into our forward line see nothing and then he is forced to pull up and chip it to a player 15m next to him. Then watch the blokes in orange stream back and take an easy mark from a bomb into the 50 to nobody. Then run it up the middle and score as a result of a couple of their forwards making strong leads in the forward fifty arc.
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teasea Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #179

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and using Adelaide or Ports losses this week doesn't equate to us as our losses have been happening year after year after year after year.................

and suggesting that 'stingy defensive footy wins GFs' umm ask St Kilda about that

and yes at some stages other teams do have all players back but again we do it over and over year after year

Sad to say, I'm dreading the derby but then miracles do happen!!!!!
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The_Yeti Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #180

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teasea, the worst part about the upcoming derby will be the way McGovern takes about 15 intercept marks because we don't learn from the last 10 times we've played into their hands.

But don't expect the Roly bandwagon to remember any of that. When you ask for them to offer something specific you'll either get strawman arguments or they simply go missing in action.

I just hope we can get one against the Bulldogs next week but it certainly won't be the gimme the rah rah crowd will tell you will happen. But if we lose, we can always blame the kids
Egurls Suck!
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Placekick Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #181

Placekick
I thought there were a few other factors that may have contributed to our defeat yesterday:
i. GWS looked as if they had been told to put extra pressure on our defence. In our wins against GC and Essendon our defence was brilliant, constantly rebounding with long, accurate kicks or sharp short passes through the centre (via Wilson, Ryan and Blakely), allowing our midfielders to run forward and our forwards to lead up to the ball. Yesterday Wilson and Ryan made mistakes under strong tackling pressure and had fewer possessions. Our backs were also out-bodied by GWS forwards, the mark by Toby Green on Hamling late in the game being an example. Hence we had multiple turnovers.
ii. We missed Langdon, who gave us pace and run against GC. He would have made a difference, as would have Brad Hill.
iii. We tackled poorly and didn't win enough contested possessions or marks. Our forwards hardly nailed a tackle or contested mark, whereas GWS applied a lot of forward pressure.
iv. GWS had an edge in class.
v. McCarthy played a shocker, rarely offering leads and doing his 'chicken with its head cut off' routine, and trying to out-body stronger and taller opponents. That was disappointing given his great form of the previous week. Tabs was also below par, though still got a good number of possessions. We need more creativity from our forwards.
vi. Roly seemed not to make any changes to counter GWS's methods, but that's speculation on my part.
vii. Ultimately we appeared to be out-coached but the players also seemed over-awed and too frequently panicked, eg Neale shooting for goal instead of giving Ballas a simple opportunity. We still lack composure, even when we win, and our decision-making forward of centre is poor.
viii. Brayshaw and Cerra hardly contributed, though at this stage that's not a big concern, but it meant we were a couple of players down. And Fyfe had an ordinary day by his standards.

I think we can do better in these areas, but Roly needs to get his act together and develop some flexibilty (?not possible).
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Jason Giants v Freo 6 years 1 week ago #182

Jason
So to summarise...

GWS shut down our two key back playmakers in Ryan & Wilson.

We were missing two key, fast & skilful mids (B.Hill & Langdon) who combined for 16 In50’s in the past two wins.

That lack of midfield depth led to Mundy having to go on ball and rob us of our most creative forward this year (in terms of score involvements)

Combining the loss of B.Hill & Langdon with a backline not clearing the footy cleanly or quickly - lead to our forwards pushing up too far trying to give a D50 outlet option.

So when we did get the footy into the midfield there was no one at home inside 50.

That equals our coach is crap and the game plan doesn’t work.

Glad we’ve cleared that up.
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