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TOPIC: Teams: Fremantle v Essendon

Corporal Agarn Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #71

Corporal Agarn
It's pretty hard to hit a player on the lead in our forward line when quite often they're out of position from having to all push down past the centre.
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exceed Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #72

exceed
The frustrating point was I really believe our list is superior to norths. But maybe I am biased.
I suppose their spine is far superior with tarrant, Goldstein, brown far better than Johnson, Sandi and tabs.
Maybe I overestimate our midfield, but to see north rebuild about the same time as us I just get the feeling that they will get there first and we will be still rebuilding !
I know people rate Sandi , but last week when Ryder went off , ports midfield really got on top.
There were several occasions Sandi simply tapped it to westhoff the opposing ruckman.
I understand he was once a behemoth, but right now, maybe we are better with trying out Darcy.
It hurts to say that.
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Walter the baker Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #73

Walter the baker
Can someone help me understand these mythical “game plans” that highly paid coaches apparently stake their reputations on?
Sure, I appreciate tactics and playing to your strengths, e.g. you can bomb it into a forward line if you have tall forwards who can mark. What I don’t get is that there are these obscure yet cleverly constructed plans that are meant to be outwit the opposition. I also don’t understand opposing player’s contentions that if they “stick to their game plan” everything will be ok, which clearly can’t be right if most games have one winner.
Given that the average IQ of a football team is unlikely to be something that we want to examine too closely, how complicated are these plans? Has one ever been seen outside of a footy club? Why isn’t Wikileaks all over this? Forget the Panama papers, I want to see a Game Plan - even if it is old and outdated. Coaches are being paid millions of bucks to come up with these magical documents, they must be awesome!
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Eventually Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #74

Eventually
What game was Daicos watching ? 3 talls in the forward line, too many? Even if you can call Macca a tall it would be more accurate to observe that playing 3 tall forwards in our backline or midfield was too many. How I wish for one tall to be permanently played in our forward line!
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The_Yeti Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #75

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Daicos would have more credibility if he limited his remarks to things that are actually true.

His comments about the forward line being too tall when we didn't have a forward line is only one particular example of the nonsense in his article. If he limited his remarks to commenting on the Roly style of putting defense as a priority over all other things, limiting the way the players can respond to game situations or limiting the creativity of players due to our narrow, almost one dimensional approach then I would perhaps be more inclined to read his guff.

Roly needs to adjust his approach, something he's refused to do for his entire coaching career. I honestly cannot see him changing after refusing to change for so long and in the face of a massive amount of evidence that says he should. TBH I'm not sure that he can.

The game has changed. A low scoring lock down defensive approach no longer works. The AFL doesn't like it and has changed the rules to make sure it doesn't work. They warned the coaches. They said you would be 'fighting city hall' if you kept that approach. So everybody changed, except us.

As has been said my so many people, we need a permanent forward structure. We need faster ball movement to beat the opposition moving back. We need better skills to achieve these things. Three essential elements to 'sustained success' and Roly refuses to do any of the three.

If he cannot or will not change, he needs to be replaced with somebody who will do those things
Egurls Suck!
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Eventually Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #76

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A permanent forward structure is surely all we need now. I believe we now have skilful players on every line and our defence is looking more solid with Hamling back in. If we cannot beat what I believe is a media hyped up average looking Bombers team today I fear for our season. With the talent we now have I would suggest that any half decent coach should be able to stir up a win without any need for a "game plan" at all! Roly will lose my respect if the worst happens tonight and I would think the rest of his few remaining believers too.
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Raglan Matt Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #77

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“It surprised me that they played three of the big talls down there, which I don’t think you can do,” Daicos said.
“They were too top heavy.”


The only comment Daicos made in the whole article about 3 talls selected as playing in Freos forward line, Yeti ( whether they stayed there or not is another matter, and if they didn't, an indictment on RoLy's selection policy and game plan). 1 paragraph out of 16. Get past the fact he is an ex Pies player and read the article, it is mostly a critique on Freo's style of play.

Morgan, if the players were allowed to play on and get the ball forward at all times instead of holding it up and waiting for the 100% sure option, our forwards would only need a meter or 2 of separation, and the opposition would not have time to set 2 or 3 players to obstruct and hold the player on the lead. That is what won Hawthorn 3 flags out of 4 GF's. Their skill level wasn't light years above anyone else, they just got the ball to forwards who were playing from inside the 50. We played a very similar style of play against the eagles in the JLT cup, using the corridor and moving the ball quickly and made them look second rate. Went back to our kick it sideways, wait for the last option, style of play against Port and looked second rate ourselves.

Players skills come to the fore when they play as they instinctively believe they should. When they have to stop and think about never kicking to a contest, always look for the man 20 meters in the clear, go backwards if you can't go forwards, and the rest of the "team rules" they are thinking about other things rather than thinking about hitting Tabs, Cammac or Fyfe on the tit with a lace out pass. That is why our skills look crap .
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Davo Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #78

Davo
You can comment on NM winning - their 2nd half had good pressure, tackling and a key forward who kicked straight.

But they played a side that was so appallingly bad that the Freo Dockers ladies would have beaten them.

The spotlight should be on St Kilda, not North Melbourne.
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Suker Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #79

Suker
Dockergate, Walter...Dockergate
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purplepower Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #80

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Crowd doing the job the players have brought the effort....for the rest pretty messy football by Freo all they do is bomb it.....can't see any hand of the coach
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purplepower Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #81

purplepower
The bomb is Ross answer
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purplepower Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #82

purplepower
Only a poor coach can loose this game
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Raglan Matt Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #83

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I think Ballas answered a critic or 2 tonight as well.
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purplepower Teams: Fremantle v Essendon 6 years 1 month ago #84

purplepower
Great effort by the players should of been over by half time.... For the rest the bomb did the job for today
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