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TOPIC: Selection Table

purplepower Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #29

purplepower
What's the point of having a one million dollar coach if he can't address and change things
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The_Yeti Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #30

The_Yeti
I see plenty of people are getting upset when Roly's record is compared to Drum's.

Unfortunately for them, facts are facts and Roly simply must change or those facts will continue down the same path. His approach has been dismal for the last 2 seasons (another fact) His approach hasn't changed (another fact)

There comes a time when people need to reassess and you need to be asking yourself some very simple questions.

i. Are you a Freo supporter or a Roly supporter? (its not difficult for me)
ii. Do you think Roly's unchanged approach is suddenly going to work when it clearly has not worked?
iii. If you think its suddenly going to work, explain why?
iv. If its not going to work, is Lyon suddenly going to change?
v. If he can't or won't change, should we settle for being crap or should we look at changing things to get some improvement.

If you get to V and think, yes we should change to look for improvement, ask yourself how that can be achieved when the guy 'doing the cobblering' refuses to adapt. If you can do that, then keep him on. If you can't then you have either settle for remaining crap or force a change.

He keeps saying 'failure is feedback' but nobody is listening.

I don't give a brass continental who the coach is or who is on the board or indeed who likes me posting facts, I only care about the club improving and getting a flag. maybe some other people should start thinking of the same thing
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DS Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #31

DS
Yeti, in question (i) are you saying the two options given are mutually exclusive?
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Blue1red1 Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #32

Blue1red1
When our forward line is effectively our full back line, it is time to make a selection with the likes of a Kirk, a C Scott, or someone who knows how to let players play to their strengths.

Yesterday we got towelled up in the midfield.
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The_Yeti Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #33

The_Yeti
DS,

To be fair, not entirely but thats not the point of the question.

If you think that replacing Roly will get us closer to a flag, which would you choose? Roly or a flag attempt?

Its a reasonable question predicated on the lack of results displayed and the lack of meaningful change observed. If what has been tried for the last few years hasn't worked and there is no real likelihood of that process suddenly working, then change somewhere has to be implemented.

The guy driving the bus has to either change direction or we get a different driver who will change direction but we simply cannot keep on with more of the same hoping that suddenly the results will be different.

i. Our skills are not at the standard of most of our opponents. Accept or change?
ii. Game plan is flawed ie delivery into forward line is predicated on long kicks to a contest (This can't be denied. Its how they train)
iii. Selection is often flawed (Barlow, De Boer etc were played where they were unsuited and not where they gave us reward. yesterday, Tabs and Kersten deep in defence and no marking forwards. I could go on but you can see what I mean...we all can see that because its been the source of much comment on here)

We are simply not where we should be and not where we could be. I do not believe in some cunning master plan suddenly appearing out of the ether because we train how we play and we are not getting the fundamentals right.

Something has to change and right now its down to the coach changing or changing the coach. Which one is more likely to occur?
Egurls Suck!
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Corporal Agarn Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #34

Corporal Agarn
Probably neither.
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Raglan Matt Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #35

Raglan Matt
Yes Rhythm man, a lot here ARE saying the board has no .... idea about footy.
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Rythum_man Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #36

Rythum_man
Wow Raglan Matt that's harsh on Peter Mann, Stephen O'Reilly and Belly.
I'm backing them over social media experts.
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Raglan Matt Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #37

Raglan Matt
Who is in charge of the whole shebang, and if Mann, Bell & O'Rielly can't force some changes it may not be harsh on them.
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guy smiley Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #38

guy smiley
The fans want wins. The board talk about market share.
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Morgan Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #39

Morgan
It's a binary world you live in yeti.

Ross Lyon got a couple of teams to a GF. He clearly has some coaching acumen, and if he is a one-trick pony it was a pretty decent trick. He's never had to rebuild a team before, so I have no idea whether he can do it, but it's still too early to tell. 4 wins, then 8 wins, if we got 12 wins this season that would be a very good result.

Not sure if we'll get there, but I would suggest round 1 is probably going a little early to declare 2018 a failure.
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hypen Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #40

hypen
Now you've done it Morgan.
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The_Yeti Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #41

The_Yeti
I haven't declared 2018 a failure, Morgan

I have declared a failure to change a failing process is a failure but theres nothing new in that.

Oh and his one trick is history. The rules have changed and people have adjusted...well others have adjusted anyway
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purplepower Selection Table 6 years 1 month ago #42

purplepower
Big game with Essendon can't afford to get belted......looking forward to a strong response
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