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TOPIC: Now and then

Noddy Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #1

Noddy
In 2013 our GF squad (wiki source) was:
Duffield Dawson Johnson
D Pearce Elvis Spurr
Mzungu Crowley Barra
Fyfe Mayne Sutcliffe
Walters Pav Clarke

211, de Boer Hill
Balla, Suban and Barlow

Roly got us into a GF then, and I think we’re better placed now to get in one at least and win.
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shane Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #2

shane
Duffield Dawson Johnson, D Pearce Elvis Spurr, Mzungu, Crowley, Barra, Fyfe, Mayne, Sutcliffe, Walters, Pav, Clarke, 211, de Boer Hill, Balla, Suban and Barlow and Lyon got us into a GF.
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DocDocker Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #3

DocDocker
Going by the weakest link theory that the team with strongest worse 6 will win.

The bottom 6 in that team possibly were Dawson, Clarke, Sutcliffe, D Pearce, Suban n Duffield. Could argue De Boer should replace one of those 6.

The bottom 6 in the current team are?

Which team has the strongest bottom 6?
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Docker by the Sea Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #4

Docker by the Sea
All of those people got us into that GF, but only Lyon got us to where we are now. Hmm I wonder.
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Noddy Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #5

Noddy
I don’t think that 2013 squad would have progressed that far without Roly. Our least best six were average.
Where we are now is possibly better positioned to go further than we have before.
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Corporal Agarn Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #6

Corporal Agarn
I definitely wouldn't have Duffield in the bottom six.

We mightn't have got that far without Lyon........But we might have got further with say Clarkson or someone else. All supposition and speculation.
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Mike Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #7

Mike
One thing not mentioned here about the 2013 GF is the decision that I will never get over, which was to name Lachie Neale as the sub. If ever there was reason to throw the spreadsheet in the bin, that was it.
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Noddy Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #8

Noddy
A bit like Clarkson may not have won GFs without the squad he had. I’d be struggling to find a bottom six in that squad.
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Corporal Agarn Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #9

Corporal Agarn
What about a bottom six at Richmond. I'm battling to name more than half their team in last year's GF. Bloody Hardwick must be a star and he's gone one step further than Lyon with a worse list.
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Noddy Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #10

Noddy
A worse list, that’d be supposition and speculation.
He was on the verge of being sacked and they pulled a GF out of a dark place, and having the mcg as your home ground helps...a bit. Without Dusty I’d speculate they wouldn’t have won.
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Corporal Agarn Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #11

Corporal Agarn
That's my point.
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Morgan Now and then 6 years 1 month ago #12

Morgan
What was noticeable about that 2013 team was how well those workman-like bottom-to-mid tier players played all season. Mzungu, de Boer, Suban, Mayne and even Dawson probably had career-best years. Whether Lyon is credited for their performance, or marked down for being unable to sustain it is in the eye of the beholder.

The absentee that hurts from that team was Ibbo. On a tricky day to score goals, Ibbo's likely opponent in Gunston kicked four goals.

It's hard to know what the bottom 6 looks like until you know how many players are injured. But looking at our list, we've got a lot of players with plenty of upside, without having consistently put it together. Our success depends on how much of a step up players like Ryan, Blakely, Logue, Tabs and A Pearce make, and whether x-factor players like Bennell can get on the park, and if our solid engine room can win the ball. 15+ games from Sandi would be a huge help as well (particularly if they are front-loaded at the start of the year while Hodor is building back into fitness).

If the stars align, we could be pretty good. Assuming the usual number of hiccups, we'll be mid-table at best.
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