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TOPIC: SHERIDAN

FDB SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #29

FDB
Tommy Teeth has yet to play a good game for us. I have no idea why anyone thinks that would change.
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Morgan SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #30

Morgan
For the record, Sheridan was taken at pick 16 in the 2011 draft that had already been weakened by GC17 being able to pick underage players in 2010 (i.e., that would have been eligible for the 2011 draft). He was a first-round pick in name only.

For the record, here's the remaining picks in the 2011 extended first round (because GWS had a gazillion picks at the start) that came after him.

Clay Smith (pretty average)
Brad McKenzie (out of the league)
Elliot Kavanagh (out of the league)
Hayden Crozier (shows glimpses)
Josh Bootsma (out of the league by some distance)
Murray Newman (out of the league, possibly in prison)
Henry Schade (out of the league)
Sebastian Ross (looks handy)
Todd Elton (out of the league)

He has actually overachieved against that little cohort, although interestingly, there was better value in the second round.

If you want to throw shade at him because his kicking sucks and his decision making is below average that's fine, but criticising him for where he was picked is not only out of his control, it's actually unfair when you consider the context of that draft and the players taken immediately after him.

He's a below average AFL player who is destined to spend his time floating between Peel and the firsts. I've never understood the need for people to take such joy in sticking the boots into a guy who clearly tries hard but isn't very good. It's not his fault no-one has knocked the door down to claim a spot in his place.
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guy smiley SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #31

guy smiley
It's only a step away from calling out 'c'mon 11, you're hopeless' or similar over the knitting, Morgan.

There was a time when more than a few of us in here used to be pretty hard on Ibbetson, too. He turned out alright.
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zorro SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #32

zorro
Seem to remember there was a crab called Mundy running around for us back in the day. Where'd he get too?
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Bizkit SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #33

Bizkit
Manic almost won a rising star and was an absolute gun from the get go. That's a horrible comparison.

Sheridan never looked like amounting to much and should not still be at the club over others who have gone. His disposal and decision making were poor and while he has a tank, he doesn't have speed so his use to the team is minimal other than being a body to occupy space. That's not good enough for mine and the kids need to be playing ahead of him.
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Simon: I've always had balls you've just never seen them.
Nathan: That's the gayest thing I've ever heard.
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pollyanna SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #34

pollyanna
What, do you seriously expect me to lay the boots into my dog?
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zorro SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #35

zorro
Well, yeah, Bizkit. The comparison isn't between the great David and the a-smidge-less-than-great Tommy.

The point is that - as I'm sure you recall - Mundy copped a lot of Sheridanesque bollocking early in his career from the same quarters as Tom is copping it now.
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FDB SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #36

FDB
Morgan, pointing out that everyone around him in the draft was carp is only a defence of our drafting him. To reiterate, the problem isn't that he was drafted, it's that he still gets a game.
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Bizkit SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #37

Bizkit
Manic was loved by everyone in his first couple of seasons, he looked fantastic across half back and did some great stuff. It's a myth that he was abused by fans and people on this forum for not being any good. When he was moved into the midfield there were people who called for him to go back to defense and didn't think the mid move would work because he wasn't getting the footy enough but they were proven wrong. He needed a season or two to adjust his game and build his tank/movement.

Manic's abilities and skills were never called into question and it pains me to see the Manic comparison thrown into conversations about players who don't have those abilities/skills to begin with. He had proven his ability to play very good football from the beginning and had the potential to be elite.
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shane SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #38

shane
Yes, it's a bit like whenever someone comes up with a crackpot scheme and they tell you that 'Everyone laughed at CY O'Conner' but that doesn't change the fact that he was constantly criticised and his abilities and skills were often called into question.
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steverod SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #39

steverod
It's simple Newtonian Physics. For Nat Fyfe to dominate, we need someone as useless as Fyfe is great to balance out the universe. There can be no other explanation.
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Raglan Matt SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #40

Raglan Matt
I thought we had Margetts and Williamson for that???
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Morgan SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #41

Morgan
Some players are destined to be too good for the WAFL, and not good enough for the AFL. Brendan Fewster All Stars, if you will. Sheridan strikes me as one of those. But I'm not sure who Sheridan has been keeping out of the team. The only like-for-like player I can think of was Menagola, who is the version of Sheridan who gets the ball more but still can't kick.

But Sheridan consistently out-performs most players at Peel (he finished 3rd in the B&F off 10 games), and played 9 games last year. When you consider injuries that seems about right to me.
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Raglan Matt SHERIDAN 6 years 1 month ago #42

Raglan Matt
Name your Brendan Fewster All-Stars, Morgan.
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