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TOPIC: Robbie Gray suspended

jimb2 Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #57

jimb2
Good players can make a game plan work. if the players aren't up to it, no game plan will work, except occasionally via surprise.

Great players allow even better game plans, eg, you hit a player in a little bit of space rather than bombing it in. Etc..
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Corporal Agarn Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #58

Corporal Agarn
Cotchin is 28 next month. How far back do you want this Richmond rebuild to go?

That's the same as saying Stephen Hill is part of our rebuild.
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Jezza Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #59

Jezza
. Roly inherited a team in 2012 that played in 4 consecutive finals. We challenged for the flag in 2013 and top 4 in 14 & 15. We experienced being at a GF watching our purple team play. That may not be repeated but it happened. We started the re-wire from 2016. Unless I was asleep since 2012, by my reckoning, we are 2 years into the build. And yes you’re right CA, Richmond’s rebuild took 10 years to reap the rewards and that’s why Hardwick is lucky to still have a job. The signs are it won’t take us 10 years to realise the potential because so far there’s a few things that are falling into place.
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Corporal Agarn Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #60

Corporal Agarn
Aah, now I've got it. Whenever a team is failing they claim the rebuild card and when they say it's 5 year rebuild they really mean 10. So it's okay for Roly because he's still got at least another 6 years of of his 5 year rebuild to go.

So how did Essendon make the finals last year without a rebuild?

How have Geelong consistently made finals for the last 10? years without a rebuild?
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R.Lyon Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #61

R.Lyon
We're 2 drafts into a rebuild. We won't win 12 games this year
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pollyanna Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #62

pollyanna
Cotchin's a boofhead and a crab. Dusty turned that team around, no one else.
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Corporal Agarn Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #63

Corporal Agarn
Completely agree. if you're counting Cotchin as a star you're scraping the barrel. My point is that I doubt many people would be able to name more than half the team that lined up in the GF for Richmond last year. On paper our list looks just as good as theirs, so where is the diiference?
I didn't particularly rate Hardwick as a coach, but he's had greater success with a lesser team than Roly.
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FDB Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #64

FDB
Country lad vs bikie dad
Boofhead crab vs chopstick stab
Choose your poison
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jimb2 Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #65

jimb2
Harwick had consistent support from the board, the CEO and the club in general. Even in the tough times when chunks of know-it-all entitled supporters were clamouring for a change.

Rebuild doesn't actually mean they hand you the premiership for dragging yourself out of the gutter and standing up. It means that you have the basic material in place to compete consistently with the other 4 to 8 clubs who are in an upswing and are busting their arses to reach the top just like you. Further effort and development will be involved.
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Davo Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #66

Davo
Going from 13th in 2016 to premiers the year after is in NO ONE's plan. But by finishing low they got a better draw.

They still lost games they should have won (Freo, GWS) but added 3 good trades, some younger players and made top 4.

Like WB the year before, Richmond hit form at the right time of the season and had its full squad available. The bye obviously makes a difference, as does playing all 3 finals on your home ground.

Call it the stars aligning. If they repeat it this year I'll be the first to congratulate them. WB failed to even make the finals.

The point? A good game plan (like 2013 manic pressure) together with good execution will put wins on the board.

Maybe a key forward crab like J. Riewoldt is all you need now. Come on down M. Taberner.
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Corporal Agarn Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #67

Corporal Agarn
"The point? A good game plan (like 2013 manic pressure) together with good execution will put wins on the board."

Yes it is a good point Davo, but a lot of people feel as though our game plan hasn't moved with the times and that if there is a new game plan that we can't execute it. Perhaps we've got worse in that area. Our percentage has always been consistently poor as we never kick enough goals but last year so was our defence as opposition had no problems scoring against us.

Our ball skills have been terrible for years so we got in two ex Hawthorn players to improve this-with no effect at all. We stated then that we were going to follow the Hawthorn style and this year it's been publicly stated that we are going to be more like Richmond.

Any chance that we could actually be proactive instead of reactive?
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exceed Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #68

exceed
Lee spur, d Pearce , c Sutcliffe , t Sheridan playing Sunday.
G logue not.

We will be rebuilding for 10 years.
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Down on down Robbie Gray suspended 6 years 1 month ago #69

Down on down
Logue is out because he injured his foot in the last Peel scratch match. He will get a run when he is over it.
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