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TOPIC: Why women can't score

rogerrocks Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #1

rogerrocks
As a registered slow learner, I'll just say something you guys already know. The reason the AFLW is plagued by low scores is because they can't kick as far. In the mens game you have to defend basically the whole of the field inside your defensive 50, because give an opponent a couple of metres space in there, and they'll snap a goal. But many of the women players would struggle to kick 40m (and some of them not even 35m). So the area you need to defend shrinks, and when you squeeze the same number of players into a smaller area, congestion takes over and goals are hard to come by. If you are a coach, you'd be a mug if you spread your defence more than you needed to.

The obvious solution is to add letters like "WD" and "WA" to the jumpers and then restrict the areas where those jumpers can go...
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shane Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #2

shane
How often do the male players kick the ball over 40m in play?

You're always going to get lower scores because of the power factor but the congestion is caused by the middle aged men who coach AFL clubs getting involved.

They should have taken the opportunity to reduce the interference from the sidelines on the games. Let the players play the game.
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FD1016 Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #3

FD1016
So RogerR, have you discussed this with the women folk in your life?


... thought not...
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pollyanna Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #4

pollyanna
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Tiah Haynes play out of our defensive goal square for the entire game last week. How on earth can you get scores when she has been positioned like some kind of goaltender? She's been cut this week - go figure.
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rogerrocks Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #5

rogerrocks
I'm not being critical of the female players, just pointing out why its low scoring.
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Drubbing Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #6

Drubbing
It's low scoring because their ball gathering and disposal skills are poor. Kicking is the least of their problems.
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391 Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #7

391
For me the whole argument is disingenuous...

People are clearly buying / embracing the product on its merits even if there is (I’d also suggest) an initial ‘honeymoon’ period over the next few years they need to use to embed it.

Prediction—- more people will attend the Freo AFLW game this weekend than some of the men’s games this year and the Press in WA will love it.

Rarely (on occasion maybe) do you hear media compare male v female in soccer, hockey, swimming, triathlon, basketball as the dominant narrative. And usually the comparison, which can be a bit sexist, is to give praise to an individual effort “Sam Kerr hit that as well as any player male or female”. It is NOT used to tear at the fabric of the sport.

My kids (boys and girls) channel surfing landed on and AFLW game and watched it last weekend.

I just observed how they took it all in —- zero comparison to the men’s games was made.
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pollyanna Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #8

pollyanna
I'll be specific - from what I saw last year: Donnellin, Bentley, Antonio, Haynes and Houghton were the core of talent in our women's team. Bentley is injured; Haynes was hopelessly positioned at the wrong end of the ground; not sure where Jemma was last week - which leaves Donnellin and Antonio to try and play the ground. They couldn't.
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thegeniusthatis Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #9

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Can't say I'm seriously interested to follow it. However, I do feel that the last two posts have summed up the criticisms perfectly. It is a standalone sport. Women play it. Women who play it try hard to win this game. Criticise selections or strategies to win, not the product.
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Suker Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #10

Suker
The aflw has some great athletes. It is unfair to compare directly with the men. All the men, bar the odd one, have played since 6 or 7 yo. The skills have been developed and ingrained. Once girls are able to play and realistically keep playing in female comps then the skills will be more broadly evident. The power and speed will always impact as well. I know the suggestion of playing on a shorter field with possibly less players will not go down well. But if it's higher scoring everyone craves then this should be considered.
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purple kit Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #11

purple kit
AflwX.....
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Alfie Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #12

Alfie
Hard to say the public is buying the product when the product is free . When they start charging for tickets we will know if the public are buying it. I think at $50 a ticket crowd sizes will be very different.
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Drubbing Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #13

Drubbing
Poor skills = low scores.

That's not a comparison with men, but it happens in the men's game too. Roly has proved that. The fact men kick it longer is irrelevant.
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Walter the baker Why women can't score 6 years 2 months ago #14

Walter the baker
Take away the novelty of the new oval and add a $20 ticket price. I don't think any of use would expect - 50,000 in the crowd.

That said, the future of this comp won't be decided by crowd numbers, it will be decided by TV ratings. They are current ok on the back of a need for us to see any footy, the media attention, and a community expectation that we support young women to be involved in sport. Advertisers are also seeing a way to connect with a new audience that gives them social and community credibility. If this lasts long enough it will give the game and players enough time to mature as a spectacle beyond its current poor skill level. Plenty of people are interested in women's tennis even though it is likely that any male in the top 100 could probably defeat Serena Williams. Maybe that's how we should view AFLW.
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