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TOPIC: Roos says

blockerhall Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #1

blockerhall
Five things to fix footy.

Roos

I'm all for leaving the rules alone for a while, and I'm pretty yeah-nah on most of the rest, particularly a shorter season- Nah. But actual reserves team playing before the main game?- yes. That is actually what footy clubs do. Is it possible? yes. Is it more expensive to administrate?- yes. Is it a bloody good thing for state leagues? Hell yes.
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purple_tez Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #2

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Interesting article with some good arguments for his proposed changes. I particularly agree with the suggestion that the Draft age be raised by one year. Students should be able to complete Year 12 without all the additional pressure of not knowing whether they may end up in a totally new environment in a short time. I teach upper school kids, and in my mind quite a few wouldn’t have the emotional resilience to cope with life thousands of kms away from family and close mates, even if playing AFL has been a lifelong dream. Freo have seen this first hand in the last couple of years. Give them another year to mature.
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Gumnut Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #3

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So Gerard Neesham suggests raising the draft age and met with stony silence. Paul Roos suggests the same and he's a genius. Typical.
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shane Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #4

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Two things to make footy better.

Step 1: Travel back in time
Step 2. Stop Paul Roos becoming an AFL coach.


I think mine are as plausible as his.

Changing the draw is the sort of tinkering about periphery that people like Roos obsess over. Yes it's not even but very few things in football are. The grounds aren't even a standard size.

America has an entire college sport industry running. So it's easy to push the draft age up to 21. Australia doesn't and the AFL is kidding itself if it thinks it can organise that sort of thing on their own. It would also mean less players in the system and less years of football from good players. So you'd end up with a weaker league.

A seconds team also sounds great...if you're a highly paid former coach who's never bought a ticket to the football and will never have to.

The tried a sub. Coaches like him would exploit the rule and made a mockery of the health of their players. You can't even bring a stretcher on the ground any more because football clubs can't be trusted not to use it to cheat with.

He didn't answer the question about what would the umpires do all week? They don't need to do strength training, they don't need to do skills work with a ball. It's also not necessarily their life's calling. Most of them wouldn't want to be full time umpires.

Pffft...Draft lottery. Give it a rest.
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DS Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #5

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Step 3: Deregister the Eagles.
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Morgan Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #6

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That article basically sums up Paul Roos. It's 'stay off the lawn' stuff masked as progress. He continues to take one experience he had and then extrapolates it to the rest of the league without contemplating that his experiences might not be representative.

Instead of considering whether 'playing each other once' creates its own inequality, or why he is against the 17/5 model, he just dismisses the requirement of objective reasoning and says it's obviously better. Instead of getting a view from the Players Association whether the membership would be in favour of a 20% pay cut to play fewer games, he bases his assessment on a conversation he had with one bloke.

He simultaneously argues the AFL should be precluded from changing the rules - many of which are aimed at making the game safer - while arguing for a rule change to introduce a concussion sub and adding a whacky play-in system and reducing the draft order to chook lotto. How do you argue for leaving the rule alone, and then two paras later say the players need to be protected so the rules need to keep up? I'm not against those ideas, but some internal consistency in the piece would be nice. Even those ideas he doesn't flesh out, it's as if the detail should be someone else's problem. The devil, with the AFL, is always in the detail.

Some 18 year olds will want to earn a living wage playing football. If someone is old enough to vote or join the army, does it really make sense to prevent them from the career they want for a year for the sake of some young lads who find it tough. I don't have a strong view either way, but there's no thought to the counter-points to Roos arguments.

Like, who pays for the costs of the reserves competition? Does it make sense to put the Freo young lads on a plane every second week? What's the consequence for the WAFL or SANFL. Do some homework you nonce. He clearly stated he didn't feel like thinking about footy, but clearly he can't go a couple of months without pontificating about it. A little extra thought would have been nice.
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RideoftheVagaries Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #7

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I don't mind the idea of a national age limited competition (say under 21). You'd imagine it would be less sheep stations stuff and, for a while at least, the balance would favour more skills driven play over systems driven play.

The AFL could even use that junior competition as a sandpit to trial rule changes to emphasise more attacking play, if that's what they want.

It'd make the draft a lot more of an entertainment event, as more people would have a bigger sample size to know the players who could potentially end up at their team.

As for the state leagues, they'd ultimately benefit as they'd get an influx every year of (non-drafted) players who are more recognised in the footy watching public and have gone through a more elite system.

There'd be plenty of interest in it, would bolster the TV rights deal, which would surely generate enough funds to pay for it.
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guy smiley Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #8

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I really tried to read that... seriously.

But it's Paul Roos. No way can I put myself through that.
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Raglan Matt Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #9

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As far as draft age goes, all that needs to be done is that scouts get better at identifying which players are ready to play top level at 17 or 18 and which aren't.
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purple kit Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #10

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Let me get this straight; we are now starting a national U21 comp AND and a national reserve comp (increasing the AFL list size to around 60) and this will somehow benefit the local WAFL comp?
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Raglan Matt Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #11

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As has already been noted, the lawn bowls, cricket and basketball are boring. So boring even Paul Roos can't stand to watch them, so he has to put a bit of stirring into Dockerland to liven his life up. Onya Roosy.
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Docker by the Sea Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #12

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I have an idea get rid of six teams, let's say Gold Voast GWS, Kangaroos, Bulldogs, St Kilda and Melbourne. Draw is all of a sudden is fair, quality of football will be improved in every competition around the country and still 26 weeks of games.
Can't think of any supporter who would really want the season shortened,
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thegeniusthatis Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #13

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DBTS - are you seriously suggesting we cut six teams and one of those six isn't the Toilet?
To quote Robert Walls: what do you stand for, DBTS?
My starting six would be: Toilet, Pies, Shitboners, GWS, Hawthorn, Port and Adelaide. I included the two Adelaide teams because I've been there once.
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Drubbing Roos says 6 years 5 months ago #14

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It's pretty brief. For a Roos article. Truth be told, he kept talking for a few more hours, but they'd long left the room and edited up the copy.

I'm all for his idea of pro umpires. They just suck on weekends, so they should practice how to suck for the whole week. Some will take to it naturally. Others will need to work at it, but they'll all get there.
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