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TOPIC: Wilson v Weller

larkin Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #1

larkin
Both are designated kickers. Both want to go 'home' Both want to break contracts. Arguably Weller has more upside.

Player Statistics Comparison
Nathan Wilson Name Lachlan Weller
GWS Giants Team Fremantle Dockers
Defender Position Defender, Forward
77 Career Games 47
WA Origin Southport
January 7, 1993 Date of Birth February 23, 1996
24yr 9mth Age 21yr 7mth
185cm Height 181cm
82kg Weight 79kg
Last Drafted In 2014 National Draft
Last Draft Position Round 1, Pick #13
Last Drafted By Fremantle Dockers
2017 Stats for Season 2017
24 Games 22
13.7 Kicks Per Game 11.7
3.7 Handballs Per Game 8.4
17.4 Disposals Per Game 20.0
4.2 Marks Per Game 4.0
0.2 Goals Per Game 0.2
0.2 Behinds Per Game 0.2
1.9 Tackles Per Game 2.4
0 Hitouts Per Game 0
3.8 Inside 50s Per Game 2.9
0.3 Goal Assists Per Game 0.2
0.6 Frees For Per Game 0.6
0.8 Frees Against Per Game 0.6
3.5 Contested Possessions Per Game 4.5
12.4 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 14.7
13.9 Effective Disposals Per Game 15.4
79.9% Disposal Efficiency % Per Game 77%
2.7 Clangers Per Game 2.4
0.2 Contested Marks Per Game 0
0 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 0.1
0.4 Clearances Per Game 1.0
4.4 Rebound 50s Per Game 2.9
2.2 One Percenters Per Game 1.8
0.7 Bounces Per Game 0.8
79.5 Time On Ground % Per Game 83.1
0.1 Centre Clearances Per Game 0.2
0.3 Stoppage Clearances Per Game 0.7
4.4 Score Involvements Per Game 3.4
504.2 Metres Gained Per Game 380.1
4.8 Turnovers Per Game 4.4
3.8 Intercepts Per Game 3.8
0.1 Tackles Inside 50 Per Game 0.2
$397,000 AFL Fantasy Price $401,000
68.4 AFL Fantasy Score Per Game 74.0
$387,900 Supercoach Price $350,400
73.2 Supercoach Score Per Game 71.7
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larkin Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #2

larkin
If we could do a straight swap (which we can't) I'd go for Wilson
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Jezza Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #3

Jezza
Other than their ages, you'd say they're the same type of player. So losing Weller and getting Pick 2 or Martin plus pick 21, it'd be a huge win for Freo, I would have thought. If Weller stays, we've got 2 for the price of 1. Win-Win.
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The_Yeti Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #4

The_Yeti
I think neither deal will get done.

GC are offering a single second rounder and maybe Matera which is absurdly low and they would know that. The difference between what Freo require and what GC want to pay is too far to be negotiated. That is why GC orchestrated Weller's public comments today. Very unprofessional in my view.

GWS want a high price for Wilson and have targeted a first rounder that they know Freo cannot provide. As Wilson is under contract they don't need to negotiate and haven't. After all we are not Carlton.

Both deals will probably get done next year I suspect but Weller might have a few bridges to rebuild after his performance today
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bozza Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #5

bozza
Yeti. The Wilson deal will get done. We are not far off with our offer. There will be some 3rd or 4th round pick swaps to see it through. I'm not as confident with the Weller deal though but more often then not players end up at the club they nominate. For what it's worth I would have Weller over Wilson mainly because of age difference and upside.
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Jezza Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #6

Jezza
Craig Cameron, GWS recruiter has guaranteed Wilsons trade but waiting what unfolds with Suns. And Wilson's request to come home is genuine due to the couple's impending birth of their first child and family support there after. Craig Cameron is a good operator. That deal will get done.
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pollyanna Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #7

pollyanna
WELLER / WILSON

Hair gel:
Yes / No

Tatts:
No / Yes

Polished Ray Bans:
Yes / Not on yer life
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hypen Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #8

hypen
Wilson is a better footballer now and in three years time.
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The_Yeti Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #9

The_Yeti
Hell no Hypen.

Even GWS doesn't make that claim
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RideoftheVagaries Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #10

RideoftheVagaries
Weller's basically played 2 full seasons, in a variety of positions, including a very tricky defensive half-forward type role. He's shown plenty enough for where is in his development. He's got pace and skill.

Having said that, it's definitely in Freo's best interest to keep these absolutely separate and avoid conflating them wherever possible.
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Jason Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #11

Jason
Wilson will get done as all parties want it to happen.

GC will lose Matera and get nothing for him if they won’t separate issues. He’s out of contract and can fall all the way through to the rookie draft if need be.
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goodie Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #12

goodie
Weller has played every game for Fremantle by virtue of the fact that we are terrible. He should have been dropped at least a couple of times this year, along with a few other players (McCarthy, Tucker) but we don’t have the squad depth. I don’t have a problem with our list management trying to get pick 2 for him. It’s laughable, but why not give it a try? But if the Wilson deal falls apart tomorrow could you blame gws for not sitting across from us and thinking to themselves that if Freo want pick 2 for Weller then Wilson is a rolled gold pick 1? And then asking for it.
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Jason Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #13

Jason
Yeah, nah...

Wilson signalled his intent well before trade week, is about to have a baby with his partner (both of whom come from Perth) and hasn’t bagged out the club he is currently contracted too.

GC, Weller and his manager have completely stuffed this up and have only themselves to blame for the rigid position we’ve now taken as a club.

Gold Toast have barely any credibility left and if they fail to nail this trade - the first time where a quality, young player wants to go ‘home’ to them - we’ll, won’t that be a cracking start to the senior coaching career of Stewie Dew?!
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Raglan Matt Wilson v Weller 6 years 6 months ago #14

Raglan Matt
Weller is definitely more valuable to GC than Wilson. Wilson is definitely more value to Freo than Weller, so it is not easy to compare the 2 deals. Freo have a number of players with Weller's skill set as is evidenced by the Doig count, but we have 1 other player who is currently doing the same job as Wilson. What happens if Ryan gets injured? We go back to the same old Burke and Wills backline, lost in the wilderness of a footy ground backline.

I also like to apply the "Polly Test" of : No hair gel, no raybans, some tats. You know which player is going to put his face and hairdo on the line in the granny first.
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