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heycharger PF2 6 years 7 months ago #85

heycharger
I don't think that Cotchin should be playing this week. If Cotchin is holding the cup aloft on Saturday, it'll have none of the feel-good factor that last year's Dogs flag did.

I can't stand Adelaide either, but I'm starting to hope Eddie has a blinder and kicks a bag.
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larkin PF2 6 years 7 months ago #86

larkin
what he said (it would be Karma)
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Raglan Matt PF2 6 years 7 months ago #87

Raglan Matt
Charlie Cameron to kick 7 and the crows by heaps. Martin to go the high fend, and have a straight right slip under his guard and "accidently" lay him out. Cotchin to get the same treatment he has dished out on 3 occasions this year, and let's see what the MRP thinks then.
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Mushroom PF2 6 years 7 months ago #88

Mushroom
I've never understood why players don't grab the arm of the bloke going the fend off.
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Walter the baker PF2 6 years 7 months ago #89

Walter the baker
If Adelaide isn't practicing "how to tackle the fend off" they don't deserve to win.
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rogerrocks PF2 6 years 7 months ago #90

rogerrocks
Mushroom, I have a feeling its not as easy as it looks, or they would do it. And Dusty does it very well. You see quite a few other guys who try and do get their arms caught.
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Morgan PF2 6 years 7 months ago #91

Morgan
Hypen asked a really interesting question near the beginning of this thread that mostly went unanswered: “Is there and should there be some relaxation of the MRP rules in a prelim?”

There is an underlying assumption that the rules, including with respect to the MRP, should be adjudicated exactly the same in round 1 as they should be in a prelim. People like RM are expressly calling for that. That’s a very black-and-white view, and I’m not sure I agree with it. More to the point, I don’t consider the AFL actually aims to be consistent over the course of the season, and I don’t think it’s in the AFL’s interests to do so.

I think the AFL admin has a number of often competing aims, including in the broad categories of ‘integrity of the game’, ‘player safety’ and ‘commercial considerations’ (including something I’ll call ‘entertainment value’). I think the AFL struggles to keep all of these balls in the air.

It seems to me that the AFL uses the early rounds of the AFL season as an exercise in player behaviour modification. It seems to assess problems it has seen in the previous season – like players getting hit in the head or too much player congestion – and attempts to correct these through either explicit rule changes, or more subtle interpretation changes. The AFL swings hard against these things in the first third of the season rounds to try and get these behaviours out of the players repertoire, but that through a combination of the players adjusting and the umpires relaxing their interpretation, but the end of the season the league seems to reach a more sensible equilibrium. Fans exhaust all of their outrage early in the season, and by the time the finals come around and a ‘new normal’ has been established, it tends to fall away.

In Cotchin’s case, you don’t want players cannonballing in recklessly all season where they can give guys a concussion – that has long-term implications for the league - so you crack down on that sort of thing early in the season. But you also don’t want players rubbed out of Grand Finals for contesting the ball, so you’re inclined to let it slide.

The question is: is there anything wrong with that?

My answer to Hypen is that there is a relaxation (of a number of things) over the season, and there should be.
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shane PF2 6 years 7 months ago #92

shane
I think you're overcooking it. There is an underlying assumption that our players should get off and everyone else's players should get rubbed out.
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Suker PF2 6 years 7 months ago #93

Suker
What happened to, "Protecting he head is sacrosanct.'
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Jason PF2 6 years 7 months ago #94

Jason
Called it early - 2 of the umps from the Richmond/GWS are into the GF.

Good luck Adelaide, you're going to need every scrap of it now.
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rogerrocks PF2 6 years 7 months ago #95

rogerrocks
But Shane, that is the correct starting point, surely?
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Raglan Matt PF2 6 years 7 months ago #96

Raglan Matt
The biggest problem I have with that theory, Morgan, is that we haven't played in a preliminary final for a while, so we don't benefit from the relaxation of the rules.

Hang em all, all season, or let em all go for it all season, don't chop and change to suit the agenda. They are called laws of the game, not "vague interpretations of what we think will make the most money for us". So treat them as such.
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Noddy PF2 6 years 7 months ago #97

Noddy
According to Eddie knows Everything, folks have lost trust in the institutions which set certain principles and the AFL have stepped into the void. Well Eddie, I don't think the AFL are quite there yet.
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rogerrocks PF2 6 years 6 months ago #98

rogerrocks
The trouble for us mere mortals, Morgan, is that we want to know the rules. This ever changing goal posts thingy gets us anal types all hot under the collar.
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