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Jezza The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #43

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I hate to use this comparison but the mob up the road have had a charmed run. Other than Not-a-cluey, they haven't had too many significant LTIs. I put that down to their style of play. Bruise free footy. Too many seagulls waiting for the Joe the Goose. Nuff said.
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exceed The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #44

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People criticise freo because we are not an elite club.
At times our descions are simply staggering. Our reviews are a joke.
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Corporal Agarn The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #45

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They rarely get the amount of injuries we do and they rarely miss the finals. I don't believe it's all down to good or bad luck.
You only have to go through the top 8 sides and besides Sydney at the start of the year, which they have completely overcome, none of them have had a huge injury toll, particularly long term ones.
Same for Sydney, Hawthorn, Geelong and slime in their recent long spells in the top eight.
I don't think all of them are full of seagulls and play bruise free football. In fact I'd be happy to play any sort of football that meant we really had sustained success, not the pretend promised one.
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bluepup The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #46

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By god its tough supporting this footy club. Bloody underdogs we seem to not be able to attract marquee players, get the wrong end of the free kick count weekly, injury prone players that take years to come back from injury ( that players from other clubs return from in a year) the list goes on and on. Tough as it is Im ready again for the long off season and another go next year.
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Flag_2005 The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #47

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It depends on the type of injuries you're talking about. Clubs can't do anything about ACLs, shoulders (eg Blakely), ribs/punctured lungs (Sandilands) or broken legs (Fyfe and Pearce). They are largely collision injuries or just bad luck injuries. An epidemic of hamstrings is a separate issue but I doubt we're different from many other clubs.

The clubs that fill the top 8 spots each year have generally had a good run with injury (save for GWS this year). It's been that way for years. Partly that's preparation and management and partly it's good old fashioned luck.

I don't see any of the Hawthorn medicos and physions getting moved on off the back of their injury riddled season.
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Jezza The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #48

Jezza
Our injuries seem to stemmed back to the Harvey days but maybe I'm being too harsh. The Hase, Mora and Barlow injuries remains the lowlight back then. However to have made the GF in 2013 was nothing short of voodoo magic. Sandi's turf toe in preseason, played only 10 games, from Rd 15, Pav only 12 games, and AA Luke played 16. Injury cursed year. How they ever got up for the GF I'll never know. Bloody Harvey.
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Drubbing The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #49

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Rolyball 1.0 clearly didn't need a lot of marquee players - because we didn't have that many, and a good few were out a lot.

Now he's got (arguably) more talent, and hasn't done anything with it.
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Jezza The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #50

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So your reasoning brings into question the coach. I thought we were having a dig at our medical and conditioning team. You can't have it both ways. I think we won 16 games that year to finish 3rd behind Geelong. Had Sandi and Pav played more games we could have won perhaps 19 games equal with Hawks and saved us a trip to Geelong. Just maybe this Roly bloke can coach or maybe we've got some of the best medicos in the land. Just maybe.
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Tragic The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #51

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It is possible that the hierarchy are slow to offload injury prone players. Eg Zac Clarke, Anthony Morabito. I hope the Dockers are slow to pull the trigger on potentially ending a player's career. To do otherwise makes them subject to questions of ethics an philosophy.
I suspect there would be correlation between age of players and risk of injury. Young players, with immature bodies suffering from collision injuries and older players suffering from degenerative disease and its complications. I understand the Dockers are currently over represented at the extremes of player age and experience.
To sustain an argument that the medical staff, and outcomes can be improved upon, you need data showing that other medical staff are getting better result s treating the same injuries. All the Melbourne radio station is presenting is a statistic. People jump to a, probably wrong, conclusion.
I am happy that the Clem Michael experience would have reminded the Fremantle medical staff to follow best practice guidelines when treating player injuries.
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Corporal Agarn The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #52

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Wouldn't expect them to be moved on after one bad injury year Flag. Previously they have had great injury free runs, not like us who seem to have significant injury problems every year.
Even with all their injuries to top premiership players they still managed to finish two and a half games and 16% better off than us.
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wingman The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #53

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The point being that the standard joke on this site is that if they say 2 weeks for an injury it will generally blow out to 6 weeks or longer. Rehab on long term injuries always seem to have setbacks, infections to a broken legs, recurring clean outs to knees, further strains to calf injuries or hammy's etc etc. Why can't they get it right the first time. There are about 5 players, (even though a couple are no names), on the list that have barely played much footy in two years because always in rehab. Understand there will always be unfortunate injuries in a contact sport but next year will be a good indicator to see if the pre-season at the new training facility and oval reduces the number of player's injuries and time in rehab compared to being at Freo oval. If luck has anything to do with it then surely we are due for some luck on player availability.
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Bizkit, slammen, Corporal Agarn said You Beaut

Blue1red1 The Cull 6 years 7 months ago #54

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It'll be interesting to see if the new turf at the training centre will have an impact on the team after leaving the hard old Freo site.
Lee Spur didn't get put back in after his calf either. Was that good medical management,,,,
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