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TOPIC: DRAFT SWAPS

Eventually DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 8 months ago #1

Eventually
Having secured Draft Pick 5 and being a pretty deep draft from what I hear would we be better served by swapping our early pick to the Gold Coast for 19 and 21 or Brisbane for 14 and 18 or Melbourne for 10 and 21 or even Essendon for 12 and 29 ? The points value is similar so if any of those teams are keen for an early pick......
Would give us 2 strong draft picks instead of one! With our draft history I would feel safer this way.
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Drubbing DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 8 months ago #2

Drubbing
Yeah. 2 spins of the chocolate wheel instead of one. What could possibly go wrong...?
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expat DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 8 months ago #3

expat
I'd go 10 & 21, but someone at Melbourne might get sacked for doing that i'd imagine.
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hypen DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 8 months ago #4

hypen
Its a good idea Eventually but I think its a shallow draft with some top end talent. Very very interested to see if they take a tall WA player. Think they will take a midfielder.
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Raglan Matt DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 8 months ago #5

Raglan Matt
What will it take, Hypen, to convince you that we don't need any more midfielders?
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Detox DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 8 months ago #6

Detox
Just looking into my crystal ball I'm seeing Mitch McGovern and Adelaide's first pick for pick 5.. Then Harley Balic for Blaine Boekhorst from Carlton ;)
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Corporal Agarn DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 8 months ago #7

Corporal Agarn
Had heard about the Balic/Boekhorst swap, but would think Carlton would want more than a straight swap.
After all Balic's only played 4 or 5 games.
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Bizkit DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 8 months ago #8

Bizkit
Boekhorst isn't good, he's a poor kick and disposer of the footy and that'd be a poor swap for us. I'd much rather a pick for Balic (second round is probably appropriate for a kid who was taken in the second round but should have been first and has shown a lot).

As for swapping pick 5, no. Take the best KPF and develop them, don't split it into lesser players. If someone takes him first then grab the best mid, don't go reaching with your top picks, that's where you get your valuable marquee players..
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DockedinDBay DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 8 months ago #9

DockedinDBay
I'm with you Bizkit, KPF but preferably a local one (if there are any). Look at Hipwood at Brisbane, need the not want to go home factor, that one has star written all over him once he bulks up and according to Roly we are re-stumping etc
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purple kit DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 7 months ago #10

purple kit
If we do go for best available then Brander is our man, in the twoomey talent draft at pick 5 and "the best tall in the draft" if however our recruiting team want to stick with home grown then Naughton is our man and only ranked at 12, so they may well look to downgrade our pick 5, Melbourne have picks 10 & 27 so that would get us back into the second round.
The problem I see is that they are both backs so we would have to turn them into forwards, or perhaps move A Pearce into the forward line, we have been trying out Cox but unless he can sort his kicking out over the off season I think he needs to be a back as well.
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Corporal Agarn DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 7 months ago #11

Corporal Agarn
So is there are tall forward in the draft somewhere a bit lower? I'm over trying to make a forward out of a backman or whatever?
Ryan is a great example of recruiting exactly what you want and need. In his case a mid sized half back with good skills.
Otherwise a decent key forward somewhere in one of the WAFL, etc leagues.
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Flag_2005 DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 7 months ago #12

Flag_2005
There's the rub Corporal - in most of the phantom drafts I've seen the only bigs in the top 20 are key backs or ruckmen who play forward a bit and we don't need either.

I can see us taking another 190cm mid with our pick 5 unless we trade it.
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The_Yeti DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 7 months ago #13

The_Yeti
Flag, that is the process that gets our recruiters into trouble,

i. We need X
ii. the best X is down the list, so
iii. we get Y because he's 'worth' the value of the draft pick, and
iv. Y plays at Peel because there are bloke in front of him and we lose game because we need an X

We should identify our needs and select the best available to meet our needs, not select what somebody else thinks is the best value for the pick. Pick positions don't have an intrinsic value. The value they provide is getting a player that best meets your needs. Unless your Bond, Chris Bond and you select the best skinny Victorian mid fielder every time.

If failure is feedback, perhaps we should pay attention. The failure to plan for McPharlin's and Pav's departures doesn't seem to have taught anybody very much
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Morgan DRAFT SWAPS 6 years 7 months ago #14

Morgan
Eventually, trading down in the draft to secure a greater number of talented players is exactly what we should be looking to do; but as hypen suggests it depends where you are picking and how you evaluate the talent at that spot. For example, if you think there are 6 gun players in the draft, and you don't really mind which player you get, then keeping the pick at 5 to add A-grade talent is probably the right call. If you think there are only a few A-listers in the draft and none are likely to make it down to pick 5, then going for a two-for-one makes the world of sense.

Last year we gave up pick 3 - Hugh McCluggage - and as a result brought in Logue, McCarthy and Hamling. Time will tell, but Bond is backing that combination of players to be better for Freo than a single player in McCluggage. I didn't mind that play, but it could easily look foolish if it doesn't come off.

If there was a strong key forward that could fall to 5, I'd keep that pick. But if not, I'd be inclined to see what we could get for it. I probably wouldn't trade down for Mitch McGovern. He's a nice player, but if you put an in-form McCarthy in McGovern's slot in Adelaide, I reckon he looks a million bucks. What Freo need is a big lug to kick it to. Another mid-sized forward isn't going to make much difference.
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