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TOPIC: Firsts

Raglan Matt Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #15

Raglan Matt
CA, if it was not happening we would not be seeing it. If we were not seeing it we would not be commenting on it.
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Docker by the Sea Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #16

Docker by the Sea
I think the fact that we won easily and still see it shows we are not using it to blame our performance. I will be happy when other sides stop winning the free kick count by up to double figures at home.
We are supposed to be happy when we only lose it by a couple at home. Then again we could bang in week on week about how poor our coach and club are.
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Corporal Agarn Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #17

Corporal Agarn
Pick a game, any game, any year, any team, where you think a team got every free kick they deserved and the opposition didn't get a free kick that they didn't deserve.
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Docker by the Sea Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #18

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Pick a year any year where we are not in the bottom half of the league on free kick differential.
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cletus Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #19

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There was - as always - some absolutely mind boggling decisions last night....but its almost part of the game now....and , well ...we've just got to 'roll with it'. There was some pretty ordinary ones for them as well.

Overall, -as far as Dockers games go - I didnt think the umpiring was too bad.

As for the female umpire... Well, I profess that traditionalist, sexist me doesn't like the concept. Puts the lady in some pretty ordinary situations - or, will one day became a great issue where there'll be a huge kerfuffle / sh** storm as a result of crowd abuse/ player abuse / coach abuse.
In short, I reckon its putting someone in harms way, and its unnecessary. Still, we are 'of these times'....

However, I want to say this. In my view, she did a damned fine job and I'd be very happy to have her umpire again. Theres not too many in the current batch of AwFL umpires that I would say this about!?
I would suggest she was a little black & white, and maybe missed a couple, but....in totality, it certainly wasnt the worst umpiring perfomance all year, and I'd almost say it was one of the better ones. All credit to her!

Only real fault I saw ( and havent been back to replay to quantify) , but when she bounced the ball, they invariably bounced to her right. Its a technical issue that needs correction, but it was the same for both teams, so it wasnt to anyone's advantage. Wouldnt like it happening in a quarter where a team "really hits its straps" beacause it could dertermine a result, and so it needs to be fixed.

Unfortunately they'll fix it by simply doing away with the bounce and another great aspect of the game will be gone...
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Drubbing Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #20

Drubbing
"Harm's way?" You know we 'let' girls drive really fast cars at Bathurst these days?

Nothing wrong with a female ump whatsoever. Doesn't come with any of the mates with the players, one of the boys baggage that too many umps carry, and use to play favourites.
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Dockermus Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #21

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I'd prefer Ms Glouftsis for any game, anywhere, anytime, in preference to the blokes currently giving the Egurls the softest possible ride in Melbourne. I thought she did a good job; even-handed and decisive.
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cletus Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #22

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I agee with you completely Dockermus and Drubbing...sorry it hasn't come across like that.
All I'm saying, is that, one day there'll be an on field incident that will end in tears , and probably cries of mysogyny and sexism, and, well maybe it has to happen....

But, yes, I thought she did a great job, and I hope I conveyed that.

I should have also added, that I think the presence of a female might take some of the "blunder-bust" and bravado out of some of the 'melees', and, there might be a little bit more on field 'respect' for the umpire...which probably is a good thing, in total.

In a years time, I'd like to see the stats on "melees when female umpire was present". Bet they'll be a lower than normal.

And, in the meantime, I reckon we better prepare for the fact that there will be more of this, and one day, a game will commonly be run be 3 females.... The day is coming....
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Docker by the Sea Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #23

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As I said previously couldn't really tell the difference with her out there or not. Which is probably vindication that she was up to the task.
Centre bounce was low only difference I noticed, which will probably lead to bounce being removed from the game. I don't know how I feel about this will probably be sad to see the end of it.
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larkin Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #24

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more firsts - Dockerlanders complimenting an umpire - but no one gushing about the shade of red flags? I thought they were fabulous.
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KingKepler Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #25

KingKepler
Umpiring or refereeing in any sport is never going to be a perfect science.

Unfortunately the AFL have turned umpiring into some kind of a science experiment with the constant rule changes and 'interpretations' even throughout the course of a season.

I can't think of another professional sport with perhaps the exception of boxing which is so often confusing and inconsistent.
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rogerrocks Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #26

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CA, can I cite the first 8 games of 2015? We won all of them, and I don't reckon you were reading too many posts here complaining about the umpiring. And largely that is because the umpires were being nice to us. I distinctly recall Fyfe being given forever to dispose of the ball (almost as much as if he was a Sydney player).
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Corporal Agarn Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #27

Corporal Agarn
DBTS., how about this year when after round 10 when we were ranked 8th and Geelong, Adelaide, Sydney and Richmond made up the bottom four.
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Docker by the Sea Firsts 6 years 8 months ago #28

Docker by the Sea
Where are we now CA. Are you really pulling one figure from one round in which we were one position inside the top half of the league to invalidate my point. I haven't done the figures for a couple of years but they were pretty damning when I last looked.
Fre-Doh had some much more thorough analysis than I am capable of. Gee I miss that guy.
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