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TOPIC: Skills

shane Skills 6 years 8 months ago #15

shane
His job is to get the ball, run away from or around someone from the other team and then put it into the forward line where one of our forward can win the ball and kick a goal. Obviously there job is a bit easier if he lands it on their chest but if it was that easy it would be a pretty boring sport.

I might add, Cam McCarthy has kicked some beautiful long points this season.
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pollyanna Skills 6 years 8 months ago #16

pollyanna
Bradley Hill has kicked a few beautiful close-in points too.
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purplepower Skills 6 years 8 months ago #17

purplepower
B.Hill is one of the handful of players that the Dockers rely on to make something happen to improvise and manufacture something out of nothing ......in some ways he is the game plan
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Raglan Matt Skills 6 years 8 months ago #18

Raglan Matt
I've said it before , Shane and I agree with you, he kicks it where it should go, too often our forwards don't get to where they should be.
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Noddy Skills 6 years 8 months ago #19

Noddy
Amazing how often the backmen of other sides often judge where the ball is going into our forward line to mark it and they are surrounded by our players, but we can't judge where it's going or lay a hand on it. Now that's skill.
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R.Lyon Skills 6 years 8 months ago #20

R.Lyon
Maybe our forwards are too clever and run to where the ball shouldn't go in order trick the opposition........ we're ahead of our time
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Down on down Skills 6 years 8 months ago #21

Down on down
I didn't hear anyone criticising B Hill after a run of about 3-4 games mid season when he blitzed it. I recall the talk was how he was possibly the trade of the season.
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Morgan Skills 6 years 8 months ago #22

Morgan
The post is about skills, and how you improve them. No-one is saying B Hill hasn't been a good addition, but he does seem to go through spells when his kicking radar is wonky. His first quarters in particular seem to be a bit off. After 5 years in Hawthorn's system that wasn't eradicated. I consider that is in keeping with most players and clubs – good coaching might be able to incrementally improve a player’s skill over a career, but if you’re expecting a great uplift in skills across the board from the training track, you’re likely to be disappointed. The solution is in recruitment.

Freo has very rarely put the most skilful team on the park. We’ve had other attributes – our 2013 team had a wonderful brute-force mix led by a monster midfield - but we have consistently lacked a little bit of polish with the skills. But a few players can make a big difference, and sadly a few of our highly skilled recruits didn’t come off (eg, Mora, Simpson and at this stage Bennell).
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expat Skills 6 years 8 months ago #23

expat
Getting back to kicking on both sides. I would think this must be a skill learnt and ingrained as a junior. Back when I was in under 10's, our team was crap, so I remember deciding to start kicking on my wrong foot as it wouldn't have hurt, I thought. So by the time I was in under 14's I could kick equally well on both sides and more importantly turn on both sides of my body.... however, I did spend a lot of time on the bench during the 12's.
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cletus Skills 6 years 8 months ago #24

cletus
I think players are that skilled on the 'banana kick" or 'checkside' these days, that the need for kicking both sides of the body has lessened. I'm not in agreement with that fact, but it is how it now is.

But yes, 30 years ago, some of the kicks they do today would have been frowned on, and, your chances of playing high level football were almost determined by being able to kick both feet.
Not now though, I think, and if you watch some of our blokes, I'm not certain the ability to kick at all, is rated very highly!

What really gets me about todays skills, is the propensity to skid the ball through the goals rather than belt it through on the full. Obviously, someone has worked out the odds are better?

But geez it drives me nuts when they miss. And - I dunno - there seems to be a lot of stuff ups when they do it that way.

There other footskill that is missing from the game - I reckon - is the good ol' Torpedo punt.. If it is now a game that is about 'meters gained', surely the torpy has a place in todays game. ??

But you'd barely see 2 or 3 a year these days.

And in our case, if you are having trouble finding someone inside 50 to kick it to,( let alone the knowledge that theres probably 34 players there ready to pounce on it if the kick inside doesn't come off), I dont understand how you wouldn't just "Malcolm Blight' it from 50 or 60 out and 'have a go'.

Be a whole lot better than the potential stuffed up mark or duffed kick( - theres a fairly high percentage that that occurs these days- ), and geez, the torpy is a pretty great crowd pleaser.

Why has it been left behind??? It cannot be any riskier , or more fallible, than some of this checkside stuff, or dribbling/skidding the ball through??

Bring the Torp back!!
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Wedge Antilles Skills 6 years 8 months ago #25

Wedge Antilles
Where was this ambidextrous footballer utopia you speak of? I reckon it's always been a select few that could kick reliably off both feet and for everyone else a kick off the non-preferred is and always has been a last resort. I can't imagine recruiters ever having passed on talent just because they were weak on the left, otherwise the WAFL circa late 80s/90s would've been littered with one-sided freaks who then found another foot and rose to be VFL/AFL champions.

With all due respect to Brad Hill and the rest of our midfield, you do have to look before you pass inside the forward 50. McCarthy et al wouldn't know where to run if there were witches' hats on the field, but the midfield has to be able to adjust and kick to their advantage. That's why we're so crud right now. The forwards aren't running or running where they should. The midfield isn't being pragmatic and kicking to their advantage anyway. And the coaches don't seem to be able to rectify the situation within games. It's a perfect storm of crud.
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Rat Skills 6 years 8 months ago #26

Rat
Any Plan B would be nice .
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