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TOPIC: Urgent new coach needed

The_Yeti Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #127

The_Yeti
You are arguing against yourself there, RR.

You 'assume Roly knows what he needs to do' then later you say 'providing he's willing to learn'

There is the heart of the problem. He isn't willing or able to learn.

He's had problems with the way he deals with people at St Kilda and the feedback at Freo is the same. He's had problems coping with uncontested game plans, hence his poor record against Clarkson. He's getting outcoached by a work experience kid up the road because he cannot adjust his game plan to cope with marking talls. He's gone in short in both derbies this year and lost both the same way....by being outmarked at both ends of the ground.

Sure, if he was learning from his mistakes, I'd agree with you but he doesn't learn which is why we keep getting the same results.

I. He has to adjust his defensive mindset and plan to attack when its possible, you know like successful teams do (Hawthorn)
II. He has to adjust what we do to combat other teams strengths or at least not allow games to be played on their terms.
III. He has to concentrate more on football skills rather than try to congest the game all the time. Guys who cannot reliably hit targets don't get picked every week and those who can do get picked
IV. He needs to stop going 100% defensive every time we build a lead. We were all over North Melbourne in the first half and he starts the second half with extra guys behind the ball to congest the game. Sure Norths found it hard to score and we found it impossible until we changed again late in the 4th
V. He needs to start learning from the guys who outcoach him and stop being so flippin' arrogant. If the clowns in the media can see where he's going wrong and guys on the outer can see where he's going wrong, why the heck can't a guy getting paid a million a year?
VI. I want my money back
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Derby12 Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #128

Derby12
Morgan,

We are winning the ball ok you are right - but we are terrible at the spread and moving it away. What game are you watching?

Brad Hill may do that OK, but having 1 outside to 3-4 in and under is madness. Contrast that with Hawthorn who rely on mitchell for so many of the clearances, but have plenty of players situated outside, and who move the ball cleanly away. Same with GWS.

The better sides reverse the ration of inside to outside players that we go with. Which is madness when you think that we have both Hills, Weller who could be elite outside runners and users of the ball.

Clearances - from centre or stoppages - is a different setup. I was just isolating one component of the game where, watching from behind the goals, the set-ups have been chalk and cheese, and Hawthorn have destroyed us in that area. I have never seen a more clear example of one side with a structure, and one side playing bees around the honeypot under 13's footy.

Yes there is a requirement to link up, but what you will notice is that the zones used do allow for the smaller units to link up effectively, but even if Hawthorn were missing with their outlet kick, you'd still see the set up, and effective clearance away from the contested area. We don't have anything like that.

But I'll throw it back to you: is there any area on the ground where you can see any consistently replicated pattern of play over the past 6-8 games that suggests that we are developing a similar or analogous strategy? This is what I am looking for at this stage of our development - not wins, not necessarily consistency from players, but signs that we are developing, or there is emerging, a consistent style of play.
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cletus Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #129

cletus
Very sorry RM !! ...I've only just noticed that! Sorry...!!

Very soon I'll work out that RoLy knows completely what he's on about and that we are in safe hands;
and, that we have been spoilt by the quality and insight of the Freo recruiting staff over the past 22 odd years;
and, that plonking the whole club in the middle of Cockburn next to the freeway is a brilliant way to epitomise our Fremantle roots;
and, that modern AFL footy is an exciting and enlightening spectator sport;
and, that the only way to win and AFL match is to kick bugger all goals and defend, defend, defend...
and, .....forward lines ? Who needs 'em???

Oh ...I missed our rehabilitation staff. Very soon I am going to work out that they are brilliant, but overworked and underpaid...!

(I would have said something about Tabs, but I have no need to rankle Yeti's chain....!! )
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Morgan Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #130

Morgan
I actually think our switching from defence has been much improved. In the past we've been happy to go down the line and try to win the next clearance. Without Sandi to bomb it long to, we've been a lot more likely to switch the play and work it up the other side. That takes good positioning and good / brave kicking, and having Blakely down there has really helped (and not Ibbo, for example).

The problem is that we get to about 80m from goal and we've got nothing to kick to: it's either CamMac or Kersten leading to the pockets, or Ballas leading up the guts and getting it too far out to score. It's obvious we're missing a big plonker who can take a mark.

Side note: Are we sure Hamling is a better kick than Dawson. Obviously we've only got a small data set for both (despite Dawson playing for years), but Hamling really seems to me to be in the 'hold your breath' category.
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The_Yeti Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #131

The_Yeti
Well, Morgan, you are only going to have a small dataset and Dawson used to avoid kicking like the plague.

He always preferred to handball to a guy covered by two opponents...and even then, aim at his ankles.
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Derby12 Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #132

Derby12
Hmm. So because we no longer have an outlet bomb we are forced to switch across the backline. Hardly proactive stuff. You may be right. We still seem to get caught without a second/third kick target up the ground an awful lot for something that is planned and part of the structure. And as you say, the problem is worse further down the ground.

What do you reckon it should take to get the players doing that one effectively. 3-4 years? It's pretty groundbreaking stuff after all ...
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RideoftheVagaries Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #133

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You don't just get to go out there and execute your plan as you like, the opposition is trying to disrupt that and execute their own plan. I think when we've had momentum, we get glimpses of the plan as they would like it to be. You could also figure that they have plans for when the other team gets momentum. (and please don't try to convince me of the rather far-fetched conceit that Lyon has no idea, it just doesn't stand up to the available evidence).

It's a bit of a silly cliche that "the game passes a coach by" too, really it's more about ability and opportunity and I think coaches ability doesn't disappear, just sometimes they don't get the opportunity to readjust. Lyon has been afforded an opportunity to readjust with his long term contract, so whatever you think about him we'll get to see how he goes about it.

Also i) Clarkson is probably the gold standard, so most coaches would come up short, ii) sometimes some teams feel more comfortable playing other teams, Hawthorn has become with us, like us with Geelong and how we used to be with Meth Coast and iii) Ithink people forget the Hawks have won the same amount of games as us, with less squad turnover, an older team and buying in some tailored near top shelf recruits to boot.
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charlies tree Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #134

charlies tree
IMO ..Ross has got as much out of this list as he can.Finals appearances and two serious Premiership seasons.The only question to me is could Mark Harvey done as well.???.
What have Freo been doing in the draft with rookies and established players.Freos blues in the draft are well documented from 1994.Some key position players have been missed last few years.Just imagine Mitch Mcgoveren and Rory Lobb in Freos side.
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Derby12 Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #135

Derby12
ROTV - "You don't just get to go out and execute your game plan as you like".

Well you do if you are Hawthorn playing Freo mate.
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The_Yeti Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #136

The_Yeti
Charlie,

For all the valid criticism of Bond, Chris Bond, Lobbe went before we had a chance to pick him and we did try to target him back from greater waste of space but no luck.

We did pass on McGovern though and thats really hurt us.

That said, nobody gets every call right. I just hope they learn from that foobar
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Flag_2005 Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #137

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You know this thread is losing its way when it's pondered whether Harvey could have done better than Ross and we revisit draft decision made in 1994....
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Derby12 Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #138

Derby12
Oh - I assumed the thread topic was referring to the heading of the ad placed in the St Kilda News in September 2011 by the Freo board ... my bad.
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purplepower Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #139

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If is R. Lobb you talking about....he was drafted at pick 29 by GWS..... we had pick 17 and went for Appeness ....draft 2013
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charlies tree Urgent new coach needed 6 years 9 months ago #140

charlies tree
Purple Power it has been said that Lobb was filthy that Freo didn't draft him.
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