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TOPIC: Can we win?

The_Yeti Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #85

The_Yeti
Yes, loyalsupporter, I blame the coach.

His game plan, his training, his methods, his selection of players, his instructions they play to...see any links here?

If the players are not playing his gameplan, why is he picking them all the time?

If they are doing as he wants, then what he wants is all wrong, isnt it?

So yes, its the coach
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Noddy Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #86

Noddy
Is there a well functioning forward line that doesn't have at least two big kpp? If we'd managed to draft or trade these over the years I'm sure our forward line would've functioned better. Pav was often double teamed or scragged which affected our goal kicking efficiency.

Roly seemed to have a functioning fwd line when he was at the saints.
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shane Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #87

shane
Whether or not he's done it in the past is not the point. At the moment we don't have a very good forward line set up. It needs fixing.
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Drubbing Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #88

Drubbing
To my mind, it's simple - when they're not kicking forward, it's because no one is forward, because they're being told to work up the ground. We flour bomb running forward because no one is leading up, they're all running in too.

Ball handling errors come about because of breakdowns in gameplans, or inability of the coaches on game day to counter the opposition.

Players don't go from slick to crabtastic from week to week, on form alone. It's how they're being organised.
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Morgan Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #89

Morgan
Forwards look best when they can run into space: sometimes that’s up at the ball, sometimes it’s back towards goal. But to do that you need transition the ball quickly, and we’re rubbish at that. The forwards can’t lead back because they’d be 100m from the ball with few links to get it there, and they can’t lead forward because there are too many people in front of them. When they do get in space, we rarely kick it to their advantage. Poor McCarthy is neither here nor there at the moment.

We need someone who is at least a target for the long bomb and/or someone can distract the loose back. Neither McCarthy or Kersten are that player. Tabs is the closest we have, but in an ideal structure he’d be using his combination of height and endurance to take his man up the ground and present on the way back. I reckon he’d go pretty well in that role, but he’s not quite equipped to be a true power-forward. We’re asking too much of him when he plays.

The coaching staff seem to be aware of this: they’ve tried better kicks in the backline (Hill, Mundy Crozier and Weller for example) and they’ve tried big lugs up forward (Sandi, Griff and Apeness for the 5 mins a year he’s not injured), without much success. We need backmen who can kick, and tall forwards who can mark. If we had those in place, we’ve got enough ball winning in place, and, when fit, enough attacking midfielders.
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cletus Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #90

cletus
Good comments Morgan! But the you've missed Hodor!!
Hes not the full long term answer, but stick him in the box, and tell him to catch the thing.
He may not be the best at it, but he'll be a bloody sight better than several of the other options.
Call me stupid, and howl me down .... but there's something about the fact that the kid is 'a natural footballer' - it was plain to see on the weekend - and that is 9 /10ths of the equation for success.
- In my mind, at least....
Why it was so hard for RoLy even ponder the option on the news last night ( ie its Sandi or Hodor, but not both) , really p....d me off, and shows up one of the fundamental problems we have with our coach...
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Drubbing Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #91

Drubbing
Who knows what Lyon ponders. But he's not going to tell you and the other coaches on the evening news.
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Blue1red1 Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #92

Blue1red1
Are you Sure Drubbing?

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cletus Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #93

cletus
True...and that is entirely understandable....but when you've got an (alleged) gameplan that is substantially different to (and perhaps years behind) everyone elses, and you are not having a great deal of success; and, you state that you are rebuilding and giving youth a go; there comes a time when you can be not so obstinate, not so rigid to your long held 'structure'; and, not so stubborn to think outside, and publicly ponder outside, the square occassionally.....
He had a chance to do that last night and chose not to....
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Drubbing Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #94

Drubbing
Are you sure oppo coaches are hanging out to know how Bennell is tracking towards his WAFL debut?
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Jezza Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #95

Jezza
The forward set up is no different to other clubs with 2 KPP stationed there and a few crumbling fellas. What's been letting us down is our mids. Even last week our inside 50s count was -15 compared to the Cats. Fyfe playing forward for longer may not solve the solution but it may fix the flour bomb entries. With Sandi back, our mids should have first use more often and this will improve our scoring deficiencies. The loss of Sandi cruelled our last month of footy.
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rogerrocks Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #96

rogerrocks
I'm not prepared to blame the coach for our losses, because then I'd have to say it was to his credit when we won. I blame the players, because I'm really happy to cheer them after a win.
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Jezza Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #97

Jezza
Any performances on the field should always be attributed to the players. A drop mark, a missed tackle or a stray kick is not the coach's doing. Though it's easier to sack a coach than to crucify the team.
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Blue1red1 Can we win? 6 years 10 months ago #98

Blue1red1
Our Forward Structure currently strikes me as looking like this:



My 10yo suggests this could be improved by adding something to it like:
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