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TOPIC: Can we win?

cletus Can we win? 6 years 9 months ago #99

cletus
Jezza...the 2 KPP and the crumbers are there when the ball is bounced - there's no denying that.
The problem is, that they are not there, nor anywhere near there, when the game is is play...or more specifically when the ball is making its way forward from our backline.
Generally, the ball has to be switched or fiddled around with somewhere between wing and the half forward line, while we await for numbers to run forward and present an option. God knows how many times the ball was bombed in - or fiddled around with whilst we waited - last week, with no-one being there, ... and the week before, and, ...the week before that. In fact we've been doing this nonsense for a good number of years - even as far back as 2013 - where things actually work half well. ie create a fustercluck in the backline somewhere through immense pressure, create the turnover, get the ball, then all run forward and hopefully find someone down there who has run back faster or wider than the ball carrier. !
How many times have you been at the game or seen it on TV, when we've got possession, and there's absolutely no-one down there to kick it too?? Even Gerard Healy alerts me to that fact at least 11 or 12 times every second match...
What we need is a bloke ie Darcy or Sandy superglued to the goalsquare, so at least there's an option there when we've got it. And if a crumber can be stationed there at all times as well - well..., we'd be onto something. And, that's probably got to mean that RoLy has to come up with a different idea than have 18 blokes around the ball at all times, no matter where it is....because...well...his 'you beaut' Sydney Swans circa 2003-2006 concept is getting a bit old. !!
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Jezza Can we win? 6 years 9 months ago #100

Jezza
Cletus, that's the way all 18 AFL teams now structure up. Freo are not the only ones that find themselves in that predicament and Healy and others only ever mentions it because it's the purple. At least 4 other games last week, the scenario where the half back flanker gets through only to find his forward line is non existent. Watch other games and stop listening to the media crap and you'll find most coaches are singing from the same hymn book. You don't actually think that Leon Cameron is a good coach. GWS are on top because they have more elite players than most. You run longer and faster because you're elite not because the coach tells you to.
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The_Yeti Can we win? 6 years 9 months ago #101

The_Yeti
B1R1,

any chance your kid is available for an ass coach gig? He sounds like he's a bit better equipped than some of our current blokes
Egurls Suck!
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Jezza Can we win? 6 years 9 months ago #102

Jezza
I've said this before, the coaching is done at junior level. It's then refined as part of your development. Players make coaches not the other way around. Have a listen to the Foxtel ad when John Longmire, Alan Richardson, Hardwick etc giving thanks to junior coaches who've coached Issac Heaney, Rooey, Dustin Martin for the players they are today. So all you folks out there make sure your kids are at Auskick on the weekend so they can turn out to be superstars one day.
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Corporal Agarn Can we win? 6 years 9 months ago #103

Corporal Agarn
"Any performances on the field should always be attributed to the players." ?????? That's like saying anything in a workplace should always be attributed to the employees and never the employers.

So why have a coach at all? Or assistant coaches? Why have runners sending out messages?

Might as well just coach themselves. There would be a lot of sports teams around the world who could save an awful lot of money.
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Raglan Matt Can we win? 6 years 9 months ago #104

Raglan Matt
You are starting to see the light CA, spoken like a true comrade.

On the money Jezza, over the last few weeks I have taken note of the down the ground shots when Freo are in attack, the opposition forward lines are more often than not deserted. We saw plenty of occasions on Sunday when Geelongs only options were players running into the forward 50. The only time they had players up forward was when we turned it over trying to get the ball through half back, and when Hawkins was too lazy or to stuffed to run.

Late addition.
www.afl.com.au/news/2017-06-28/the-nailb...ed-in-the-close-ones
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shane Can we win? 6 years 9 months ago #105

shane
All that says is that Geelong also need to work on their forward line.
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rogerrocks Can we win? 6 years 9 months ago #106

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There is a view, CA, that too much credit is given to the coach. And too much blame as well, I think. I really do think that most of the credit should go to the blokes actually doing it, out on the field.
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Corporal Agarn Can we win? 6 years 9 months ago #107

Corporal Agarn
True Rog. I believe that it doesn't matter how good a coach you are if you don't have the cattle. But I also look at how Luke Beveridge got a premiership out of a pretty average side on paper. The players really believe in him and and have stated their admiration and willingness to work with and for him.
Or how a fresh young coach in Bolton is getting good results from such a young squad.
Even successful coaches have that time when they lose the players. e.g. Malthouse, Pagan, Blight.
Wonder where Roly sits on that sliding scale?
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