Herkes tarafından bilinerek sevilen site olan 1xbet canlı adresi sizlere büyük avantajlar ile farklı bahis imkanları sunmaktadır. Bilindik bir firma olması nedeni ile her defasında yeni bir 1xbet güncel adrese taşınıyor. Paylaşılan adreslerden sizlere en uygun 1xbet türkiye giriş güncel adresine kolaylıkla hemen ulaşabilirsiniz. Sizlerde kolaylıkla her cihazınızda aktif olan 1xbet mobile ile bahis yaparak, üyelik oluşumunu halledebilirsiniz. Büyük promosyonlardan yararlanarak üyelik açmak için 1xbet live adresini kullana bilirsiniz. Üyelik oluşturduktan sonra kolaylıkla yatırım yapmak için mobil ödeme bahis kabul gördüğünü anlayabilirsiniz. Hiç bir yerde olmayan canlı bahis özelliklerini sizlerde hemen kullanın. Aktif bir şekilde işlem yapan canlı bahis sitesi editörler tarafından özenle araştırılarak seçilmiştir. Ülkemizde resmi yayın yapmayan sitelerin çoğu kaçak bahis adı altında görev yapmaktadır. İnternetten yayın yapan kaçak bahis siteleri kullanıcılarına yüksek oranlar sunan bir adrestir. Hemen sizlerde casino oyunun farkına ve eğlencesine varmak için kayıt oluşturun.
Forum
Index
Docker Discussions
Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent

TOPIC: Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent

Flag_2005 Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #15

Flag_2005
I get some different numbers to you Ricco re Adelaide. Total score 1,279 with 7 picks inside the top 20 (Lever 14, Smith 14, Talia 13, Douglas 16, Milera 11, Lynch 13, Brad Crouch - pick 2 in the mini draft). They also have an anomaly in getting Taylor Walker at 75 because he was a NSW scholarship player.

I agree on your numbers re Fremantle. However, I think the exercise shows that statistics can mean what you want them to mean. For example, if it was first round picks (and not picks inside the top 20) all of a sudden it's Adelaide with 7 and Fremantle with 3 (with Mundy, Crozier and Fyfe being taken at 19, 20 and 20 respectively) and noting that one of our 3 first rounders didn't play footy for 12 months prior to this year.

Interestingly, Fremantle have a lot more of their 22 from the weekend in the range 27 - 71 than Adelaide (lots of high end picks but lots of rookies).
Login to reply,
Morgan said You Beaut

The_Yeti Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #16

The_Yeti
What's our game plan then, CA?

Near as I can work out its if in doubt kick backwards to a guy who kicks it backward, who also kicks it backward until we turn it over. Then form a zone defence and watch the opposition pick it apart. That's when we are not standing there watching them run away from us with the ball.

Either that or handball to a guy covered by 2 opponents by passing to his ankles.

Can't see any coaching issues in that lot
Egurls Suck!
Login to reply,
Bizkit, cletus, rogerrocks, freo00 said You Beaut

Corporal Agarn Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #17

Corporal Agarn
I'm certainly not disagreeing with you Yeti. Pretty good summary. But if we don't have any decent semblance of a game plan isn't that the coach's fault? He's paid big bucks to have the players playing to what he sees as a winning game plan. And for a few more years yet while we're at it.
Login to reply,
The_Yeti, cletus said You Beaut

Dockermus Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #18

Dockermus
Footy is a professional sport. Which means the highly paid young blokes who play it have nothing else to do with their time except to make sure that they perform at their very best, every game.
They have untold numbers of highly paid professional coaches, fitness and medical staff on hand to make absolutely certain that they can do so.
A 100 point defeat, followed by a home loss to a supposedly inferior team and then last weekends capitulation, to the weakest team in the league, is unacceptable. And inexcusable.
Login to reply,
DazzElle, Corporal Agarn, freo00 said You Beaut

OGS Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #19

OGS
Great work Ricco & comments from Yeti are spot on
What worries me is development of our players ie going back over say the last 8/10 yrs the like of Suban, Sheridan ,Tucker etc (too many to mention) any better than when they first started?Players to suddenly improve once they left say Roberton & Menagolo (might have missed a few)
Looking at our current list of ass coaches who would take over for the rest of the year if something happening to Roly
What is our so called new high performance coach achieved, could have given the job to Neesham and got a better result but he would have clashed with Roly on the game plan
Definate trend obvious but what can be done with Bond as the boss of football dept
Login to reply,
freo00 said You Beaut

Ricco Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #20

Ricco
I must admit, I could have been wrong in a few areas. E.g I missed the brad crouch in the mini draft bit.

The reality of any analysis like this is that you can cut it any way you want. I could have chosen different teams, different assignment for players being traded vs drafted etc. if someone from freo HQ is reading I'd be happy to take a high paying job to do a more detailed analysis. I estimate at least 4 years work.

My conclusion was that within the bounds, the level of talent in any given team is APPROXIMATELY equal. Having said that, there are always anomalies where some clubs are able to maximise that talent - e.g. Hawthorn who had a long solid run.

The things that vary between clubs are injuries, coaching, game plan and culture.

In summary I have no idea what I'm talking about.
Login to reply,
Flag_2005, Corporal Agarn, Rhufus said You Beaut

Noddy Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #21

Noddy
In any side that can be in the top 4 of an 18 team competition the players generally know they can rely on the blokes around them to give effort and perform to a certain level consistently e.g. Hawks, Cats, Sydney over the last few years come to mind.

We currently have a team that has quality holes in it, which the management are making an attempt to fix. Apart from 2-3 quality key big men I think we have the makings of a good list.

Those efforts against Adelaide and Brisbane were like a load bearing beam of quality aka Mundy, Fyfe, Hamling, Neale, Blakely and the Hills breaking under the pressure of too much developing or poor quality older players. I expect the rest of the season to be more of the same highs and lows unless we can get 211 and players like Bennell, Balla and even Moose on the park.
Login to reply,

ICONDOCKER Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #22

ICONDOCKER
Our game plan appears to be inside 50 moneyball.

The best chance of converting an inside 50 entry into a goal would be to get the ball into the area where there is a high percentage chance of scoring.
Bomb it in and then let the stats do the work, the further you bomb it in the less skillfull a player you need to get it in, just get it In there quick and anyone will be able to kick the goal, don't bother with skills they're just a waste of effort, just give more effort.
Creative players or players with erratic disposal increase the odds of a chaos ball and break down the order of the universe which is hard to predict and defend against.
Login to reply,

walba Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #23

walba
Now you're talking. More chaos .
Login to reply,
Mercury said You Beaut

rogerrocks Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #24

rogerrocks
Yeti, there are two schools of thought, (i) keep possession at any cost, and (ii) bomb it long.
From what I've seen, the teams that beat us do a good job of (i), while we try (ii). When we do try (i) we don't execute it very well because we are under a great deal of pressure. When other teams try (i) we are very sporting and don't put them under so much pressure that they make a mistake.
Login to reply,

Mushroom Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #25

Mushroom
The catch 22 of the players you need inside forward 50 when you get it there are the same ones you need outside 50 to get it in there.

Is this a coaching or talent predicament?
Login to reply,

The_Yeti Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #26

The_Yeti
RR,

We generally only bomb it long into the forward 50 to a bloke who is covered by 2 or 3 defenders. I'm pretty sure this is to give the defenders an even chance (and our forwards next to no chance) but this is a sport and helping out the defenders is being sporting, eight?

Seriously what kind of a game plan would involve actually honouring a lead and kicking it to where the defenders aren't. What a stupid idea!

Can't see any role for our coaches in addressing that one...or indeed actually having forwards to kick to. Must a severe lack of talent I think by not actually playing forwards in the forward 50....or something....
Egurls Suck!
Login to reply,
rogerrocks, Dockermus said You Beaut

Dockermus Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #27

Dockermus
I generally think Brad Hardie is a bit of a knob, but maybe he's right for once. Is this the problem?

Out of form
Login to reply,
Bevdon said You Beaut

Raglan Matt Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent 6 years 10 months ago #28

Raglan Matt
Very insightful, surprisingly so, and his comments on players are on the money. How do we get Ross back into form? Although in saying that he does blame the players as much as Ross, so who really is out of form.

His comment on the Harbrow "affair" is a good one too, Belt someone a third time for drink driving, but let drug users and drug cheats have 3 chances before we even know they are breaking the law.
Login to reply,
Forum
Index
Docker Discussions
Poor Coaching vs Lack of Talent