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TOPIC: Young players

OGS Young players 6 years 10 months ago #1

OGS
Why is it with the number of development coaches on big money and resources etc players like Sheridan ,Sutcliffle,Hughes and Tucker etc aren`t improving
Time for a big rethink and i honestly believe Ross for all his positives is not a coach to bring young players on and improve , game plan is based on what Swans did 12yrs ago(one of my biggest bug bears why does he continue to talk in riddles when guys like Richardson & Hinkley are more honest/striaght forward, lets call a spade a spade)
No wonder Suma quit (perhaps he saw writing on the wall a few years ago)
From what i hear maybe 'Captain Kirk' might have being be the right fit
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Raglan Matt Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #2

Raglan Matt
Most of our young players ARE stepping up. Sutcliffe and Sheridan are 5 season players now and should be doing better, Hughes and Tucker are going ok, and you are being harsh to can them this early.
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Corporal Agarn Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #3

Corporal Agarn
Weller and Blakely have improved this year. Battling to think of anyone else who has though.
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OGS Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #4

OGS
Agree those two young ones are not bad players BUT are they improving given the worlds best training facility and the so called developement coaches
No attacking game plan ie even at training told to look backwards or sideways as soon as they get the ball (do Crows do that?)
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thegeniusthatis Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #5

thegeniusthatis
None of our players, bar Logue who will be something else (I have to believe this), are top ten draft picks - Stephen Hill was if memory serves me well - and Brisbane have these recruits in spades. They are major underachievers, and an exhausted Freo side tonight got belted. We were also belted 20 - 5 in free kicks by 3/4 time.
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Suker Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #6

Suker
Correct...Tucker and Hughes should not be judged the same as Sheridan and Sutcliffe. In 2017 you cannot have Sutcliffe, Sheridan and Spurr across the half back line together. We need speed in the back half ala Weller and Hamling. You cannot carry too many slow players in the back half....they are getting beaten for speed too often. We had a reboot in round three, but now we have that same slowness about us.
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larkin Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #7

larkin
Yes well we do have a lot of young players.
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d Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #8

d
Hi Corporal Agarn,I would like to add young master Grey,He has been a godsend.

As for Sheridan and Sutty,they are cogs that in the right team could actually be very useful,unfortunately,not here,not with this coach,or ...ummm...".game plan..."
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freo00 Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #9

freo00
We have a lot of good players .

But it is hard for them to get it done with bad direction .

He may as well tell the to go and stand in the corner as they aren't made to be accountable

( man on man while the opposition has the ball )

He has NO game plan that works anymore .
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Flag_2005 Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #10

Flag_2005
Interesting time to throw in the comparison with Hinkley and Richardson given both of their teams got belted this weekend. What are St Kilda away from Etihad - something like 0 - 14 over the last 2 years???

The way people are carrying on it's as though they were expecting a top 4 finish. We won 4 games last year. We're playing kids and starting again. There is going to be inconsistency, poor effort and, most importantly, fatigue.

This AFL stuff isn't as easy (or as black and white) as many seem to think.
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Walter the baker Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #11

Walter the baker
My concern is that we have lots of midrange workers but I don't see many A graders coming through and, without them, we're destined for an average future.
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Ricco Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #12

Ricco
All this being sold on the young players being the source of our problem is rubbish. Look at the line up from the ladder leaders. I'd be happy to be corrected on this, but I don't see this as a team littered with 1st round draft picks. I haven't heard of half of these players.

We have a coaching and development problem. Not a player talent problem.

15 Kyle Hartigan 6 Jake Lever 29 Rory Laird
33 Brodie Smith 12 Daniel Talia 26 Richard Douglas
21 Rory Atkins 9 Rory Sloane 23 Charlie Cameron
30 Wayne Milera 13 Taylor Walker 27 Tom Lynch
8 Jake Kelly 4 Josh Jenkins 18 Eddie Betts

24 Sam Jacobs
3 Riley Knight
44 Matt Crouch


1 Jonathon Beech
2 Brad Crouch
20 Hugh Greenwood
22 Andy Otten
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Corporal Agarn Young playes 6 years 10 months ago #13

Corporal Agarn
Think that second paragraph is spot on Ricco.
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pollyanna Young players 6 years 10 months ago #14

pollyanna
What bothers me is that the 2008 draftees will be 26 - 28 years old at the end of this season. Stephen Hill, Mike Walters, that bunch - by the time RoLy gets rolling they'll be teetering on retirement. By the time our club works out that the Sheridan/Sutcliffe/Apeness/Tabs lot are a bunch of over-hyped ponces there will be a gaping chasm on our list (that will take years to repair). As for Hill, Walters - and yes, even Fyfe - what a waste of top footy talent. They are in their prime and should be scorching the league (as well as filling the All Australian side).
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