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TOPIC: Too smart for their own good

Mushroom Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #1

Mushroom
I’m no Harvard Business School Alumnus, nor a scholar of law at Yale… but… if I can see that a few blokes sitting in a room, brainstorming and writing down stuff on butchers’ paper to come up with ways to classify a violent act in a sport distil the two headings down to i) Intentional and ii) Careless will lead to confusion and disagreement, shirley one of the plethora of suits working at, for or in conjunction with the AFL must be able to.

This is so not the way to define something to distinguish it as one or thing or another.

Yes, Cotchin was careless, but if that was not also intentional then we’ve discovered a new sub-dialect of English spoken in certain meeting rooms in Melbourne on Mondays and Tuesdays.

Maybe the dictionary was on Gillan’s shelf and his office was locked while he was away in the land of cheap plastic crap stuff that breaks too easily. Whatever, why do we have a system that is so rigid it makes it so hard to get stuff right.? Oh yeah - because we want transparency and consistency and this has the best intentions of the game and disciplined player behaviour at heart.
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goodie Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #2

goodie
I still can't believe Cotchin got off for that and the lack of reaction in the footy world. I wonder what the result would have been if Walters had done it. Or Lindsay Thomas.
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mac Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #3

mac
Judd elbowing Pav in the head which caused a lifelong scar is a fine example of Local Melbourne Boy Hear, See, Speak No Evil Club.
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jockstrap Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #4

jockstrap
I thought the charge into Walters back was a reportable offence and at least worth a free kick but the commentators thought he dropped the ball and it should have been a Richmond free. They were barracking so hard for Richmond throughout the game they were an embarrassment to the game. Did anyone catch who did it as I want to buy a voodoo doll and some long hat pins.
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Morgan Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #5

Morgan
Most fans want to see the best players play each week. I reckon players should only be suspended when what they did was dangerous. Cotchin is one of the softest men in football. Do you really think he was willing and able to inflict damage? Neale won the game for us, so hard to argue he was affected negatively.

A fine is the right result.
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Raglan Matt Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #6

Raglan Matt
Jockstrap, that was close to the turning point in the game for Freo, and it was a gutless dog act. In the days before video replay the perpertrator would probably have been too worried about retaliation from someone like Sandi or Grey to even contemplate it. However after watching the way the umpires allow Freo players to be hit late and off the ball, especially Walters, who has been branded a ducker and stager by the media, this gutless king hitter took advantage of the state of the game to try and put Walters out of the game. It was not the first assault on Walters on Sunday night, and until Freo management stand up and say it will be eye for eye, it wont be the last. Force the issue one way or another for christsakes. If Cotchin can get away with what he did surely Freo can use the video evidence to mitigate any retaliation.
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hypen Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #7

hypen
What? Neale had a big moment at the end so Cotchin should be absolved of punching him in the face?

He knocked Neale down with a punch in his face.
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rocky333 Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #8

rocky333
with his past record,should have been two weeks,regardless neale not being affected by it
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Docker by the Sea Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #9

Docker by the Sea
Personally I don't understand why you are allowed to punch someone in the face if you have hold of their jumper. Neale went on to have two free kicks awarded against him trying to square the ledger, I don't think it is neccessarily a good look for the game and it will not be eliminated until players receive suspensions for it.
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Mushroom Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #10

Mushroom
Good Lord, Morgan!

Even for you, this is is a stretch. You agree that it’s now essentially ok to punch a bloke in the face if you hold his jumper so long as he is brave enough to play on and you leave behind the five cent coin that fell out of your pocket when you pulled out your mobile phone.

What's your take on it also now being completely OK to intentionally manhandle umpires. Or was that just careless? According to the Match review panel, it was not unreasonable.

Seriously!
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hypen Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #11

hypen
How many weeks would Walters or Lindsay Thomas have got?
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larkin Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #12

larkin
The trick is not to look the victim in the eye while you bash them... it seems.
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Raglan Matt Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #13

Raglan Matt
You got no idea Larkin, the trick is, if you want to punch someone in the head, and get off, make sure it is a Freo player you punch.
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Morgan Too smart for their own good 6 years 11 months ago #14

Morgan
It was right on the line, and the MRP said they went back and forward on it. Cotchin wasn't even looking at the time, which is why I think they landed on careless. If you're in doubt, I reckon that's where you should land.

It's in keeping with this year's MRP. They are a bit more lenient than previous incarnations.
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