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CaptainMunchies Thief 6 years 11 months ago #29

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I'd wager that keen is pushing it as well; most of the time 6PR is experienced in a passive manner, listening forced by being stuck in cabs, or possibly old school barbers (flat tops done freehand)

Alternatively, they may have a broken radio, or may be a hipster listening ironically.
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shane Thief 6 years 11 months ago #30

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I've always wanted to get one of those old beds with the radio built into the headboard, and rig it up with vintage recordings of 6PM. That way every morning would be like waking up in a time warp.

But you make a good point, it might just be easier to tune it to 6PR.
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guy smiley Thief 6 years 11 months ago #31

guy smiley
Easier still, get a parrot.

You could always call it George.
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docked Thief 6 years 11 months ago #32

docked
Can't let it go

"For many, the 353-game veteran was being nothing more than a fun-loving larrikin and there wasn't an ounce of malicious intent behind his joke. But people like Aboriginal elder Robert Eggington didn't think it was funny because it was reinforcing negative stereotypes about Aboriginals in Midland.

And I was contacted by a former Dockers' board member, academics, journalists, past players and mum and dad supporters who winced at the comment, but feared if they spoke out they would bare the ugly wrath of keyboard warriors on social media.

If there was any lingering doubt about the comment, why didn't the AFL, Fox Footy, The AFL Players' Association, the Fremantle Dockers and Pavlich himself come out extinguish any spot fires?"


These would be spot fires of his own making, wouldn't they? He scoffs at suggestions he's an Eagles-loving sycophant out to ruin the Pav, amongst other things, but why does he feel the need to keep dragging this story along? This is the third article this goon has written on the subject.
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ManInPurple Thief 6 years 11 months ago #33

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Pav has done more for equality in this game than all these so called jurnos who have probably never even shaken their perfume covered manicured hands with anyone other than other pasty white nobjocks, let alone literally shared blood sweat and tears with all variety of people like Pav has done.
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The_Yeti Thief 6 years 11 months ago #34

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This guy is a journalist?

Does he realise that he is supposed to be a wordsmith. They are his tools in trade.

Yet he does things like use 'bare' when he should have used 'bear'.

His grammar and expression are appalling and his thinly veiled justifications show no more than he is sensitive to the mocking his original article engendered.

His latest article is nothing more than a thin and insipid attempt to justify his previous errors. A justification that fails miserably, like his previous efforts.

He's not saying Pav is a racist but he'd like to suggest that Pav is a racist...without actually having to justify that call. Oh, and read his article on Pav because he's no Eagles sycophant. Thats like saying 'some of my best friends are <insert something here>' before going on to make sweeping negative statements about that group.

Doesn't he have editors to help him with his obvious deficiencies?

Brendon, you are a moron. It is well past time you just shut your mouth and waited for the embarrassment to dissipate. Your attempts to create a controversy are pathetic and is your feeble justification for the attempt.
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sydneydave Thief 6 years 11 months ago #35

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Unfortunately the click bait and reader comments he is generating are gold to his employers. Our best response is to ignore it - like I generally do with Hackdorn's stuff. No matter how offensive I wouldn't re-post it
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shane Thief 6 years 11 months ago #36

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Anyone who speaks out against Pavlich on this issue deserves the wrath of keyboard warriors because they are completely wrong. Midland is a crime riddled cesspit of many cultures.

It wasn't clickbait, it was cheap old fashioned tabloid mud slinging.

Also, and more importantly, go join the picket line you bloody scab.
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timmeh Thief 6 years 11 months ago #37

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Fosters only purpose as a journalist is giving hackdorn the slightest once of credibility.. when compared to foster that is.

Foster is that bad its called a hackdorn not a fozzie
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Morgan Thief 6 years 11 months ago #38

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No one is denying WA Today scab journo Brendan Foster’s recent articles about Mathew Pavlich constituted shameless muckraking, but is casting aspersions about the Freo great a laughing matter?

Foster’s misguided justifications were delivered with head firmly in his arse when he mistook social media reaction for interest in his writing.

"The click rate is amazing", his editor said before Foster leapt in and said "I’m famous!"

Foster, whose colleagues are on strike, but has no compunction is crossing a picket line to further his own career, could be heard chuckling before adding "I'm not suggesting that Pavlich is racist I’m just…."

The [looking at photo I’m going to say] 59 year old[?] tried to continue before his editor cut him off.

"Bring it back Fossy, you can get another 5 articles out of this nonsense" his editor pleaded.

Foster wanted to make something abundantly clear from the outset: He hasn’t accused Pavlich of being a "racist". To do so would require him to stand on his own convictions. It’s much easier to throw shade with vague associations.

For almost everyone in a city of 2 million people, the 353-game veteran was being nothing more than a fun-loving larrikin and there wasn't an ounce of malicious intent behind his joke.

But Foster, rather than reconsider his position in light of the overwhelming proportion of people who disagreed with him, instead managed to find a few people, like Aboriginal elder Robert Eggington, who also didn't think it was funny because they read into a joke about a suburb a racial link that wasn’t there. Eggington’s view, that Pavlich’s comment could reinforce negative stereotypes about Aboriginals in Midland is completely defensibe. Of course, Pavlich’s comments also reinforced negative stereotypes about white people in Midland, unless you consider that it’s only Aboriginal people in Midland commit crimes, which no-one does. Everyone knows no-one in Midland can be trusted.

Foster, whose writing can reach an audience of hundreds of people, and who has no problem using that platform in an attempt to damage an admirable man’s reputation with no justification, would like the readers to know that those who disagreed with him on facebook are bullies and ‘keyboard warriors’, demonstrating that Foster is less concerned with race relations than his own thin skin.

Foster contends that if there was any lingering doubt about the comment (which there isn’t), why didn't the AFL, Fox Footy, The AFL Players' Association, the Fremantle Dockers and Pavlich himself come out extinguish any spot fires? Foster, rather than consider the option that he is almost alone in finding a racial connotation to the joke, instead assumes that he is the only moral crusader who cares about racism, whish is absurd and possibly delusional.

It's too simple to roll out a lazy argument about racism without discussing the link in the comment to race, or accusing Pavlich of racism personally. But given how casual racism has not yet been eliminated from the AFL, surely now was the time to attempt to cash in with vague non-accusations.

In the end, it was left to Walters to take to social media to say what Pavlich said "was not the right thing to say by any means, but there was no intention to hurt anyone in Midland or from Midland by those comments." Walters presumably didn’t feel the need to defend Aboriginal people, because Pavlich’s comments were about Midland, a fact Foster has failed to grasp even days after the comment.

If you look at Foster’s desperate and misguided appeal to authority in what Race Discrimination Commissioner Tim Soutphommasane has previously said about racist "jokes", you’ll see they have nothing whatsoever to do with jokes about suburbs.

"It can involve things like jokes, offhanded comments or exclusion that is directed at people on racial grounds," he said.

“Jokes about suburbs aren’t racist” Soutphommasane presumably would also say.

The issue here is not one of political correctness gone mad, but the possible impact of the joke had it been racist. Which it isn’t. But imagine if it was?

As an anonymous football writer, the wider community expect very little from Foster, and his slanderous beat-up will encourage journalism students to consider changing degrees.

Foster also contends that seeing a racist connotation in a joke about a suburb doesn’t make him a racist, because he voted for Obama, or something.

No one, Foster contends – irrespective of their standing in the community - is above scrutiny. Unless you disagree with Foster, in which case ‘leave me alone keyboard warriors!’

Most of us have overheard offhand remarks at the pub or while standing around the BBQ that reinforce stereotypes about suburbs. They are pretty funny.
Most of us have also overheard offhand racist remarks at the pub or while standing around the BBQ that reinforce racial stereotypes. People usually tell those people to pull their head in.

Because most people can tell the difference between a joke about a suburb and a race of people.

Brendan Foster is not most people, so he will tell you to pull your head in about any joke he can contort his mind into misapprehend as racist.

No-one invites Foster to BBQs.

Most jokes about suburbs often go unnoticed or challenged because they are merely brushed off as jokes. Which they are.

The language has become infused in our social norms and values: It has become part of our everyday speech. [This isn’t paraphrased. Foster actually wrote this. I’m still trying to figure out what he’s on about here.]

Last year, the book, The Biggest Game in Town: an analysis of the AFL's vilification policy which probed the racial, religious and sexual vilification in the AFL found most Aboriginal footballers are still peripheral players at most clubs. There was, sadly, no data on players from Midland. Presumably because they stole the laptop the data was stored on.

I’d like to make clear that I don’t consider Foster to be racist, or a terrible person, but if we continue ignore lazy journalism, and brush it off as mere political correctness gone mad, then we are part of the problem.
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ManInPurple Thief 6 years 11 months ago #39

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Thanks Morgan, great read.
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purplethai Thief 6 years 11 months ago #40

purplethai
Was Foster born Innaloo
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Drubbing Thief 6 years 11 months ago #41

Drubbing
I get the feeling Pavlich would have been comfortable telling that joke to Walters' face. And they'd both have laughed.

I almost rate it with Cathy Freeman telling Ch7 how happy her brothers were that she won Gold, and they weren't even drunk.

Ch7 censored it on behalf of us all, creating a racist context where one didn't previously exist.
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shane Thief 6 years 11 months ago #42

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His heart is Innaloo but his head is Upper Swan.
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