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TOPIC: True?

Corporal Agarn True? 7 years 1 day ago #1

Corporal Agarn
Someone mentioned just recently that the slime had the best free kick ratio for the last seven years. Is the re a table or stats somewhere that can confirm this?
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guy smiley True? 7 years 1 day ago #2

guy smiley
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Down on down said You Beaut

Pav353 True? 7 years 1 day ago #3

Pav353
I know every season their frees for are right at the top of the table , So could be right check out the stats on the final siren , You would have to do each year separately i think , have you heard the boos when they get a free paid against or one is missed , it is the reason i do not even try to go to the derby when it is their turn at home game . They have the most one eyed and least knowledgeable supporters in the league.
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thegeniusthatis True? 7 years 1 day ago #4

thegeniusthatis
Apologies, Corp. that was me using a touch of hyperbowl for effect. However, on the AFL site you can source this info reasonably easily I think. Carlton always get preferential treatment, but the Toilet's discrepancy between frees received / given away is consistently the highest, even when they were wooden spooners!
I have a theory that certain teams are considered perennial strugglers and therefore a bit rough in play, while there is a perception that other teams are highly skilled and therefore inevitably going to have their skills curtailed by rough less-skilled players impinging. It is hard to break these perceptions - and then there is Carlton, so my theory is shite. It also helps to have someone like Marc Murphy who is still shedding his baby fat, because the umps just don't like to see choirboys getting roughed up. Unfortunately we are the ones starting fires in "Lord of the Flies".
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guy smiley True? 7 years 1 day ago #5

guy smiley
You could play around with the data on this site if you want...

afltables.com/afl/stats/yearly.html#12

That's the average free kicks going back to 1965. As for specific totals per team... it's a little harder to find and I've had three coffees. Concentration's not a strong point right now. Basically though, where you're heading is in trying to prove that WC get more frees for than anyone else in the league and Freo are hard done by. You can probably make a case for that eventually and the averages I've linked to show a marginal advantage to them as a trend over the years but what's the point of all that really? Coming after a loss it's always going to be seen as whinging and excuse making... just as most of us would accuse the other mob of doing if they'd lost.

We know they're a bunch of bottom dwelling scum suckers with an over inflated sense of entitlement and most of the footy world view them in a similar way.... best to maintain a distance from that and not fall into similar patterns of behaviour.
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Dockermus, Corporal Agarn said You Beaut

Drubbing True? 7 years 1 day ago #6

Drubbing
There's no conspiracy, some umps are simply useless, biased, cheats, or starstruck on certain players. Like Mitchell.
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guy smiley True? 7 years 1 day ago #7

guy smiley
There is this though...

www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/wes...4f095aeb3bcedb3bd45c

the article that sparked off a mild whimper of an outcry a couple of years ago. Those stats hardly apply now though, with Dean McFlappy Help Me I'm Drowning Here Cox retiring.
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Dockermus True? 7 years 22 hours ago #8

Dockermus
Probably more relevant than 2 year old statistics is that Mr Flappy's now employed as the scum sucking bottom dwellers how-to-keep-winning-free-kicks coach.
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Wedge Antilles True? 7 years 20 hours ago #9

Wedge Antilles
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DS said You Beaut

purple mao True? 7 years 20 hours ago #10

purple mao
According to Footywire stats, between 1998-2016 West Coast had a free kick differential of +898, almost double that of the next highest (Western Bulldogs, +456). Freo is -132 over the same period.

It is a statistical outlier, but on a per game basis it's not such a huge number.
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The_Yeti True? 7 years 19 hours ago #11

The_Yeti
PM, I disagree, I think it is significant, even on a per game basis.

Assuming the years are inclusive, that is 898 frees more that their opposition over 9 seasons or approximately 100 frees more than their opponents each season.

That works out to a little over 4.5 additional frees per game. (I'm not counting finals just home and away)

It is beyond comprehension how one team could have such a massive advantage in nearly every game and sustain that advantage over such a long term.

I'll take it further, apparently the last time the eagles had a negative free kick differential was 2001 according to data posted on another site. The odd thing to me is the eagles free kick situation began to improve when Jeff Gieschen took over as Umpires Advisor and in the few years since his removal in 2013, the situation hasn't really changed much.

All things being equal, you should see ups and downs with all teams but sustained ups or sustained downs suggests very strongly that all things are just not equal. There just is no reasonable explanation for such a sustained advantage to one particular team.
Egurls Suck!
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Dockerplus, rogerrocks, DazzElle, Corporal Agarn, LOZA13 said You Beaut

thegeniusthatis True? 7 years 19 hours ago #12

thegeniusthatis
No, Wedge, i've played ten-pin bowling and that is hyperbole.
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rogerrocks, Wedge Antilles said You Beaut

Dockerplus True? 7 years 19 hours ago #13

Dockerplus
Some amazing stats there.
The slime must train for free kicks, they play for free kicks and the umpires acknowledge the trained skills and pay the free kicks. There can't be any other reason; unless there is something much more sinister going on, but surely not.
Those numbers are indicative of an uneven playing field.
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cletus True? 7 years 15 hours ago #14

cletus
Hey Yeti, - dont want to dilute the truth....or a good story - but how did you get 9 seasons out of 1998-2016?? Or was there a typo..? 4.5 kicks turns into 2.5 if its over 18 years.

They are still bloody cheats though, and are obviously paying off the umps....
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