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TOPIC: O'Meara Trade

thegeniusthatis O'Meara Trade 7 years 5 months ago #29

thegeniusthatis
I feel a bit sorry for picks 88, 91 and 117 who think that their footy dream is about to come true when in effect they are as close to playing an AFL game as I am. Clubs are also dealing with young men's lives and aspirations here.
I think as highly of Hawthorn as I do the Toilet in their treatment of their players - they're all a bunch of !@#$s.
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jezzaargh O'Meara Trade 7 years 5 months ago #30

jezzaargh
this is not a storm in a tea cup

the rule is (was), IF you trade your future first round pick, no more trading of future picks in this trade period.

If it had just been a pass through of the GWS 2017 2nd round pick, maybe OK, but to somehow read that clear prohibition as allowing you to also trade your own 2nd round future pick if you happen to trade another one in is.a massive fudge, because the AFL did not have the balls to say "sorry, the deal's off".
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Morgan O'Meara Trade 7 years 5 months ago #31

Morgan
No, the way the rule was publicly summarised was that if you traded a first round pick you couldn't also trade a second round pick. According to the AFL, the full wording of the rule says "it is to be treated as a net result. If you trade out a (future) first-round selection, you must have a (future) second-round selection." The AFL said this was made clear to the clubs.

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So, for this to be anything other than misreporting by the Herald Sun:

i. Hawthorn must have breached the rules;
ii. The AFL must have inadvertently allowed the breach;
iii. The AFL must have compounded the permitted breach by changing the rule;
iv. The AFL must have come out and publicly lied about the 'real' rule, despite the other clubs knowing what they were told; and
v. in the face of that very public and easily disproved lie, all 17 of the other AFL clubs decided not to call the AFL out on the breach (or leaked it to the media), despite one of their most successful competitors gaining an advantage from the breach.

Or, the formal rule as given to all 18 clubs says it is the 'net result' that counts, so the Hawks satisfied the criteria by getting Carlton's second round pick, and some bozo at the Herald Sun - the paper that claimed Hird and Essendon were innocent for years - either misunderstood the rule or never had a copy of the official rule.

So, which do you think is more likely. If it's the former, I have some wonderful tin-foil hats I'd like to sell you.
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Docker by the Sea O'Meara Trade 7 years 5 months ago #32

Docker by the Sea
I don't see the clubs calling the AFL out that often, but concede Eddie does occasionally but would need to be against an interstate team for Eddie to get involved.
This issue doesn't bother me a great deal as the net result makes sense. I don't have the same faith as you Morgan in how the AFL goes about its business, there are power brokers and mates behind the scenes that seem to be able to engineer their own outcomes. The Kurt Tippett penalty and suspension from drafting spring to mind. I have noticed that many of the reporters and media outlets tread carefully as well, otherwise risk their access to players and clubs.
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Raglan Matt O'Meara Trade 7 years 5 months ago #33

Raglan Matt
My point explained better DBTS
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