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demo1 O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #1

demo1
www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-admit...d81bcae89b09cf81669e

So Hawks broke the rules and AFL allowed it in the chaos of the last few minutes at the trade table.
What a joke? They dont know their own rules.
Geelong have been allowed to trade first round picks for the last 3 years also...

Imagine if that was us - $1M fine maybe some draft penalties next year.
What will happen here?
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Dockermus O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #2

Dockermus
Simple explanation - it was an AFL "blunder". So that's OK then.
It wasn't one of those cheating interstate teams trying to outrageously bend the rules.
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shane O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #3

shane
Do you think a time will come when the AFL, an organisation made up of some of the most conniving bastards in the country, would come up with a rule that wasn't full of ambiguities and loopholes?

They also don't seem to have written a policy on how to deal with a breach of the rules getting through.
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Morgan O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #4

Morgan
It's not the AFL's fault if the Herald Sun doesn't understand the rules.
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Raglan Matt O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #5

Raglan Matt
Shane they survive through their deviousness. Their laws of the game policy is a verbal agreement as to the rules and not worth the paper it is written on.
How do those of us to bloody minded to subscribe to the herald online know what the hell the Hawks and the AwFL did to rip the system off this time demo?
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Docker by the Sea O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #6

Docker by the Sea
I also don't suscribe to the Herald so am not clear on how the rules were broken. I was however listening at the close of trade radio when it was announced that there was an ability to extend the time beyond scheduled close if some form of agreement had been met.
To my way of thinking once time was up should have been all over, they have had weeks to get this done. I am with you demo if the rules say you can't trade first round picks more than two years in a row then the rule should stand. The rule also states that an application can be made to allow this, IMO this should only be allowed in the attempt to equalise for a struggling club.
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freo_beard O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #7

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Docker by the Sea O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #8

Docker by the Sea
Thanks FB, yeah looks like the AFL pretty much allowed Hawthorn to do what they wanted in spite of the rules. No surprises here.
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Raglan Matt O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #9

Raglan Matt
The AwFL should be taken to court over this. I don't usually agree with lawyers getting involved in sport but this is corruption, and an extension of what has been happening with the laws of the game "interpretations" and MRP decisions since the comp expanded to the NSW and QLD. Every rule the AFL has in place is written to allow them to make beneficial or punitive decisions at their whim, nothing is written so there is no wriggle room. The club presidents need to kick the complete admin out and start again, getting in sports admin from outside the AFL system to clean this whole mess up.
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Dockermus O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #10

Dockermus
These so-called blunders and 'misinterpretations' of the rules will continue for as long as the AwFuL remains so hopelessly conflicted. As an organisation, it needs to resolve the conundrum that revolves around it's twin roles as both sports administrator and money-making machine. Clearly, it can't be both. Hence the stubborn, lingering whiff of incompetence and bias.
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Morgan O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #11

Morgan
Can someone please explain to me the issue? As I see it, if a club trades next year's first round pick, they must have a second round pick in that draft. Hawthorn had traded both their first and second round pick, but they brought in a second round pick to satisfy the rules.

The trading of future picks was effected to facilitate moves like this, not to be used as an excuse to veto them.
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bluepup O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #12

bluepup
Any good reason why we didnt chase this bloke with our pick 7?
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Docker by the Sea O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #13

Docker by the Sea
The issue as I see it Morgan is that the rule seems to state that after trading a future first round pick you can't trade your future second round pick. I don't have an issue as such but the rule is the rule until it is changed I think, not for the AFL to pick and choose as they see fit.
Maybe I am reading it wrong but appears clear to me.
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Morgan O'Meara Trade 7 years 6 months ago #14

Morgan
To me it's a question of semantics. I'm not sure whether the clubs were told:

"if you have traded your 2017 first round pick, you can't trade your second round pick"; or
"if you have traded your 2017 first round pick, you must still have a second round pick".

The point of the rule was to make for greater ease of movement, while ensuring clubs don't completely eschew the draft. That outcome is best served by the second interpretation. Clubs are constantly moving up or down in the draft for the points system. The AFL has said it was clear in its instructions to the clubs.

It's a storm in a teacup.
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