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Corporal Agarn Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #1

Corporal Agarn
Ballas wants 2-3 year contract extension and we only want to give him one. Yes, his form has dropped off but he has put his body on the line and suffered three broken jaws and cheekbones amongst other injuries, over the years. 29 yrs old.

Barlow hears nothing but wants something. Another well loved player and character that all clubs need,on field leader, bleeds purple and playing well(which is a rarity amongst our club at the moment). Bad injury, but so have Bennell, Johnson and others. 28 yrs old

D Pearce-didn't ask for anything or no news of it as far as we know and is given a two year contract extension despite continual poor disposal and indifferent form. 30 yrs old.
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hypen Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #2

hypen
Barlow is the one leaving me scratching my head. You just cant turf out all your experience in one draft. You need some big bodies to play around.

If they move on Suban, Mayne, DeBoer, Mzungu, Ballantyne, Barlow on top of Pav I reckon you are losing 1000 games experience in one year.

Do that and we will have another Brisbane type year.
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Flag_2005 Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #3

Flag_2005
Pearce's two year extension is mind boggling. Having said that, Ballas still has a year to run on his current contract. Why would you give him a two year extension now? Sure, he tries his guts out but his form hasn't been great since the 2013 GF. That, and the fact that even on the sunniest of sunny days, he still can't stay on his feet.
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ChewyBoot Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #4

ChewyBoot
Would depend on what kind of dosh they're on too.
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bpurple Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #5

bpurple
Muz, Ballas and the Crack were all mature age recruits who Freo took a punt on. Muz has seen the writing on the wall and is already talking to WAFL clubs re: next season. Ballas would not be missed in our best 22 and I think Yarran will get game time over him next season. Barlow is the only one who we would miss game day out of those three guys. The Pig, and Suban will be replaced by bigger stronger younger players on our list (Fyfe, Bennell etc). Mayne has had since 2013 to improve but has not and in fact looks to have gone backwards despite never having been dropped except for injury. You cant hang on to small to medium sized players for ever waiting for them to improve. These guys have probably played their best footy at AFL level for Freo and need to move on. I value every player named here but someone has to make way for the guys we trade in and the newly drafted players.
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Dockermus Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #6

Dockermus
Ballantyne has been a key member of the best 22 for a number of years and a terrific player for the Dockers, a deserved All-Australian, but, unfortunately, his best may be behind him.
I may not be entirely correct, but, to me, his main roles are scoring goals, providing goal assists and applying defensive pressure. Currently, he's not scoring too many goals, he's not getting much of the ball and is prone to injury - possibly, as Ross Lyon suggested - due to poor tackling technique. Probably, some or all, of these deficiencies were easily compensated for when the team was winning a lot of games, but now....
Of course he wants some certainty about what remains of his playing future and it's his right to ask the question of the club, or look elsewhere, if he doesn't like the answer provided.
A fair assessment, after a season of so many disappointments, is that he, along with other players named in a similar context, will be missed as characters and club identities, but not necessarily for their current contributions on game day.
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purplepower Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #7

purplepower
Hard to judge a player when failure has been on every level
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Dockermus Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #8

Dockermus
Agreed, if the discussion were about young players with less than a season's experience. But not so hard to apply judgement to senior players who's talents and abilities are now beginning to fade.
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Gumnut Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #9

Gumnut
In D.Pearce's case I think he is just one of those great clubman types who has settled his family into a great lifestyle here in the West and is prepared to play for peanuts. If we are to accommodate Fyfe, Neale and any other high profile players on big money deals we will need more of his type that are prepared to play for lesser contracts and can play a role in the side on a week to week basis. Silvagni, Barlow, Suban, De Boer are some who may fit this category.
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Derby12 Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #10

Derby12
Ballas is a crumbing small forward with manic intensity who plays best in bursts. Put him Ina dysfunctional forward line and give him extended game time running thru midfield and high half forward and he will always struggle. He goes too hard too often to maintain his presence and body under these circumstances. I think his poor form is a combination of the structure, personnel limitations, mismanagement and injury. Injury free and playing as a true small forward with few decent talls and he is still one of the most dangerous and exciting players in the league.

I hate to say it but he would be very dangerous and kick a lot goals slotted into that slime forward line and with their free kick count working in his favour instead of against him.
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Morgan Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #11

Morgan
I really hope you're right about D Pearce playing for peanuts, because it's the only explanation for a two year extension at his age.

Ballas looks like he has lost a bit of zip. A few years ago we were a much, much better teamwith him in the team, not just for his goals and tackling, but because he would chip in as a tiny leading CHF at times. But his influence has certainly waned a little these last two years. I still think he's in our best 22, and will be next year, but we can't be sure that's the case for 2018 and 2019, so the club is wise to hold off on extending his contract.

If another club is willing to sign him until 2019, he would be doing himself a disservice by not looking at it. If we're not going to give that to him, we owe it to him to let that happen - he's given his absolute all for the club. If we could get a draft pick come our way in the process, more the better.
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Jooter Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #12

Jooter
I agree with almost everything that people say about Ballas's form and worth. It's all correct. However, I would hate to see him slot into the Weagles forward line, replacing, say, Josh Hill who is far too laconic for most fans to take. I suspect that Ballas would do very very well in that forward line and would help the Weagles out very much. I would hate to see that. Just my .02 cents worth.
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DockerKnockers Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #13

DockerKnockers
Freo have been crying out for more inside 50s to assist their lack of scoring.
When Freo's midfield are wining the contested footy, D.Pearce is worth a great deal to Freo for his ability to take the outside ball and get the i50. He was the AFL leader in i50s for both 2014 and 2015. It is no surprise to me that an outside player like D.Pearce looks bad in 2016 with no 211, Fyfe or the regular runnings of Barlow and Mundy getting the contested footy for him.

Yes I know his turnovers kill us and back in 2013 he was my most hated player, but Freo need him in 2017 and if he can produce his 2014 & 2015 i50 numbers again, then I'll turn a blind eye to his turnovers that I have come to expect.
Gone to bigfooty where there's fewer Docker Haters.
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darthmarto Contract Perplexities 7 years 8 months ago #14

darthmarto
There's been something like 29 goals scored from Freo turn overs in the last two matches.

Not sure we can afford to turn a blind eye to anyone butchering the ball.
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