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TOPIC: 2 Hills?

guy smiley 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #71

guy smiley
Yeah, you take him but only at the right price...

or you wait a year and get him at a lower price.

You travel, Shane. You go somewhere hot and sunny that stinks of sunscreen, massage oil and expensive perfume. Then you get the sports car and sit back and wait.
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shane 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #72

shane
You've read Chris Bond's list management model.
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guy smiley 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #73

guy smiley
Nah, he jumped into my car at a light.
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Bizkit 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #74

Bizkit
It's a sad day when even Mark Duffield can see why this trade is no good for us yet Bond is still going to jump at it.
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Simon: I've always had balls you've just never seen them.
Nathan: That's the gayest thing I've ever heard.
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Corporal Agarn 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #75

Corporal Agarn
As you say Hypen, Bradley Hill is a highly skilled kicker, as are most of the Hawthorn side. He needs other highly skilled players to deliver it to him which we don't have, so he won't get at Fremantle.
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Raglan Matt 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #76

Raglan Matt
Put Brad Hill into the team Freo had last year, and tell me it will all go pear shaped. Even this years team would benefit greatly from his skills. Post after post on Dockerland bemoans the fact that we have too many players with endeavor but
not enough skill. We get the chance to pick up some genuine home grown skill and you say "Nah don't touch it it's too expensive." Sylvia, Anthony and co were too expensive. But we took them. Get Hill and use him.
I would love to see a young Des Headland in the side we will line up with next year, he would slot in just like was at the Brisbane Lions in their flag sides. Hill will be just as good but more value to Freo than what he is to the Hawks. He would not have played in 3 flags if he was as fragile as some here are suggesting, 1 would have been lucky for him. Name 1 player who has got 3 premiership medallions without being a class act.
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guy smiley 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #77

guy smiley
Clark Keating.
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Rhufus 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #78

Rhufus
Smiley
I you beauted your post because:
I agree that Weller could end up better than B Hill
I agree not to pay overs
I agree he should potentially see out his contract first (i had already suggested that prior)
I agree no need to panic buy (my words exactly).

I just didnt realise you didnt want to get him AT ALL? The way I have read this thread is everyone wants him, just we disagree on how much to pay and exactly how valuable he is going to be.
I think we are saying the same thing basically.
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Raglan Matt 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #79

Raglan Matt
Good on ya Guy, I knew I was missing 1, but there is an exception to every generalization.
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Corporal Agarn 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #80

Corporal Agarn
Not disputing his class Raggy, more his ability to win the ball. I don't disagree with getting him but would be pi55ed off if we gave up early picks or good players for him. No-one's been able to answer the fact that if he is so highly valued at Hawthorn then how come they're so quick to say thy are willing to see him go. Not even trying to talk him into staying?

Some players are lucky and some aren't. Some of the greatest players to pull on the boots don't get a chance to play in, let alone win a grand final. e.g Pav, Robbie Flower

It depends on what the coach wants and thinks is needed on the day. David Hale played in the last three grand finals and could best be described as handy but not classy. Even Spangher won a medal for chrisakes.
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Raglan Matt 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #81

Raglan Matt
We have the inside players, everyone agrees on that. As you say he has skills, if someone gives him the ball. My point exactly. We complain about D Pearce and co butchering the ball once Fyfe Neale Mundy and co get it to them. B Hill is more of a swordsman than butcher, lets use him. Sometimes a club without an agenda (eg GWS/ Sheedy) will let a good player go home just because they think that it is the right thing to do.
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guy smiley 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #82

guy smiley
I'm not saying don't get him... I'm saying don't give away too much for him.

It's just a matter of focus is all... people talk about one side of a deal because the attraction of the target is exciting. We need to consider the other side of the deal just as much.
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Bizkit 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #83

Bizkit
Let's use him in 2 years time when he's cheap. There's absolutely no reason to sacrifice our rebuild (and the chance to get another speedy and skillful kid if your desperate for more outside players for some reason) to get him in the side for next season.
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Corporal Agarn 2 Hills? 7 years 9 months ago #84

Corporal Agarn
We might have the inside players but none of them except for perhaps Mundy who does not have many years left and probably S Hill has elite kicking skills like Hawthorn. That's been shown this year with our constant turnovers and poor disposals. Consequently he would be getting nothing near the service he has had with the Hawks.
Even Fyfe coming back doesn't change that fact either as the one thing that lets his game down is his kicking skills.


Forgot Walters. But that depends if he's being used on the ball or not.
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