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TOPIC: Mundy as captain - thoughts?

ChewyBoot Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #15

ChewyBoot
Mundy - first Victorian to captain Fremantle. Relevancy = 0, but why bring Chicks mother into this - hasn't she suffered enough.
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Corporal Agarn, smerf said You Beaut

Quiexo Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #16

Quiexo
But with a team as young as what we have currently on the park, I would imagine that it would help to have a captain who is (for a lack of a better word) inspirational..
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shane Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #17

shane
I think the main problem is that there haven't been any key points in a game to make any inspirational plays.
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Bizkit, Raglan Matt said You Beaut

hypen Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #18

hypen
Mundy just cant get across the ground, its what happens when injury interrupts a crap pre season programme.
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Roodawg Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #19

Roodawg
That as it may be Raglan. No one forced Pearce to play on. The guys was right in front of him and he didn't see him.
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Raglan Matt Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #20

Raglan Matt
Pearce would have the expectation that no-one standing within 10mt behind the mark would legally be able to tackle him. NOT an unreasonable expectation given the way the laws of the game are written. AND the player who tackled Pearce came from behind him and within 5 mt of the mark. Automatic 50 mt whenever a Freo player lays that tackle, automatic holding the ball whenever a Freo player is tackled in that situation.
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rogerrocks Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #21

rogerrocks
Yes, it seems you can stand near a bloke who's just got a free, on the off chance that he goes to play on and then you tackle him. I remember Jeff Farmer giving away a 50m penalty when he tackled a player who had most definitely played on, because the umpire hadn't called "Play on" yet. But these days, just run past and if the player with the free so much as shapes to make a handball, feel free to tackle him.**

** Do not try this if your name is Ballantyne.
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Placekick Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #22

Placekick
I said on another thread that Mundy is a reluctant captain and the way he presents in interviews and on the field seems to reflect that to a degree. Like others, I think he's a great player, but without the 'X' factor that marks a captain, and he seems quite shy. When Barlow was returned to his rightful place in the midfield about five rounds ago, he took a leading role, and against Port Adelaide he took charge of the game when it counted and kicked two inspirational goals at critical moments. His injury against Collingwood and absence on the weekend contributed to Freo's poor performances. From the moment he arrived at the club he showed he was captain material and if Pav hadn't been there I'm sure he could have taken on the job. Breaking his leg was an unfortunate interruption to his career, to say the least.
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pollyanna Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #23

pollyanna
Someone asks the question about Mundy's captaincy and it's open season on Danyellerin' Pearce. I don't get it, surely The Spack has to slot in first.

Mundy? Mundy's doing ok, the team isn't. When you've got two players chasing a single opposition player with the ball (and the ball gets kicked over both) there isn't much Mundy can do about it. That isn't bad decision making on the field, that's a simple set-up problem. That should have been fixed - in that it wasn't (at the first break) says to me the brains upstairs felt it was a useful thing to do. Add two more quarters in 28 degrees and rising humidity and you end up precisely where we were in the 4th. Knackered-out after a game of pointless chasing the ball and never getting much of it.

Run, run harder and then run harder still is about as stupid as it gets in Darwin - unless we've enlisted 18 Tiwi Islanders after the first break.

I don't think I've ever seen such blind stupid coaching as last Saturday night's game. Yet RoLy just sat in the box and smiled all night - at times even laughed at the sheer stupidity of it all. The sheer and utter pointlessness of pointlessness (to quote an old Brit cynic). At some stage Mundy should have corrected it, but (apparently) he got konked. He may have ended up on the bench in gaga land, but I reckon Suban, Walters, Hill and Neale dropped 5kgs in body weight from that joke.

As the Captain, Mundy should come out and say something to the supporters - like Pav used to.
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Placekick Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #24

Placekick
It wasn't so much blind stupid as non-existent at times.
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The Spud Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #25

The Spud
It's hard to assess Mundy's captaincy this year for a few obvious reasons- his injuries, our losses etc. When the captaincy was announced I was surprised but by no means disappointed.

Like many others, I assumed Fyfe would get it. Now before I go any further I love Nat Fyfe, well, in a fan-footballer kind of way. Not many people have the guts to play with a broken leg in a final, and announce they'd die for the Dockers during a Brownlow speech. Those 2 things are very hard to beat from a Docker fan's eyes.

But, and it's a big but, is it possible Nat Fyfe's popularity among team-mates may be suffering due to his media exposure? At times I have heard him referring to himself in the 3rd person ie. Nat Fyfe wants this, Nat Fyfe thinks that, then there was Brand Nat Fyfe with his website etc, and now when he's in the coaches box he has his own notepad to- well who knows what he's doing with it?

My point is, most great captains straddle the divide between players and the coaches. Wayne Carey had the coach's ear but could piss it up with the best of them, Michael Voss was the coach's favourite player but his team-mates would run through brick walls for him. Luke Hodge- much the same as Vossy.

Nat Fyfe would be a great captain, but in my non-expert opinion it makes me wonder whether he is just too "square" for want of a better term. I know this is like killing Bambi, but I only say it because at times when he speaks I cringe a little bit, but I think it's probably more his advisers fault than his own. In other words he sounds so unnatural that it sounds like he's auditioning for a post career media gig 10 years before he'll need it.

I just think if he could be a bit more like the boys ie. Not worrying so much about Brand Fyfe, not accepting every media opportunity that comes his way, he may well have been captain already, and barring injury, one of the best around.

And I reiterate, I love Nat Fyfe.
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Drubbing Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #26

Drubbing
Lets assess Mundy after he's had a season or two with the luxury of a full squad to work with...

They say bad workmen blame the tools, but he's got a half empty bag with just spanners in it.
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jimb2 Mundy as captain - thoughts? 7 years 9 months ago #27

jimb2
He needs to turn up to games more regularly.
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