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TOPIC: Why have a coach

RideoftheVagaries Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #15

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Barlow's decision making has been very ordinary at times this year. Which is disappointing for someone with his experience and nouse and probably wouldn't be something that would be overly helpful for the younger players development. Obviously he's no orphan there, but a stint at the lower level could be just the tonic for his focus and thought processes.
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Noddy Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #16

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Mushroom. I watched the Peel v Soufs game at the ground. Barlow butchered the ball a number of times that resulted in goals to Soufs.

I love watching Barlow play, but turning the ball over often is not elite. Having said that I think Roly will play him next week, purely because of the effort he brings.
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Corporal Agarn Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #17

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Carp!

He's no bigger butcherer than Neale, D Pearce, Suban, Mayne or Sheridan to name a few and he gets the ball a lot more than four of them, plus his use of handball is a lot better.
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Bizkit Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #18

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Barlow's decision making has been dodgy?! That's just not true, it's one of his strengths and something we've needed in the middle but haven't had.
Nathan: When did you get balls?
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RideoftheVagaries Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #19

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Was one of his strengths. Unfortunately it's been a bit on the wane for a little while now, perhaps it's because he's not finding his way as well through the traffic as he used to, or maybe it's a confidence thing. Decision making quality isn't a constant and there are all sorts of things that may impact on it, and like I say he's no orphan, opinion will sway whether it was the right or wrong thing to drop him back to Peel, but let's hope it works in his favour.
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Noddy Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #20

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CA maybe not, but when you are in the twos trying to get back into the McCoys, turning the pill over may see you get anther game in the twos, which I is the only reason I can think why he didn't play against Richmond.
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Raglan Matt Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #21

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The traffic has got a lot heavier for our midfielders now that the 3 or 4 opposition players who used to drag along holding Fyfe have been freed up.
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Bizkit Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #22

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Except his decision making has been perfectly fine this season and in fact exceptional in comparison to a lot of others still getting a gig.

The problem was being played across half forward where he is exposed for pace more and you need better disposal and finishing skills. He can certainly kick a goal when pushing forward as a mid but it's a very different game playing permanently there.
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snoop Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #23

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I'm confused by the numbers of players out there that were at the top of their game in the last season or two are now nowhere near it.

Mayne and Ibbo have been in recent All Australian squads, but are playing without confidence. Our young 50+ game players (who were "best available" when we picked them) haven't come on. Zac Clarke and Griff have shown us great form in the past, don't have it now.

Surely you don't lose the ability to play good football? Surely this is a coaching issue?
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timmeh Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #24

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Something has clearly gone very very wrong in the pre season where a lot of this has come from.

I expect to see a substantial football department re shuffle at the end of the year.

I also hope to see more local players drafted who might actually bleed purple before getting here..
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freofan61 Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #25

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I haven't got an analytical footy brain but the way I see it is that over the past few years we have been moulded the way armies are not to think for themselves but to work for eachother like a machine and now that the game has opened up, we have to change our mindset and play more individually, so we are more exposed skill-wise which would explain the lack of confidence.

Hope that makes sense.
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purple kit Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #26

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there was a post a few weeks in another thread, can't remember who it was (sorry) who said they had attended training and witnessed a senior play take a mark in the back line, see some one free side ways but elect to kick it forward to a one on one and manage to kick to the advantage of the team mate resulting in them marking it. Rolly then blows the whistle and chastises both the kicker and the marker and makes them do laps as punishment for not going side ways to the man in the clear.

If this is even remotely true it goes a long way to explaining the current indecisiveness of the players (particularly those natural footballs nous) as the team rules seem to state going backwards and side ways rather than advancing the ball. the commentators like to refer to this as "taking the game on" its something all the good teams do. back your team mates further up the ground to win the ball in a one on one, especially if you kick to their advantage.

Numerous times in recent weeks I have seen players take the ball, look to give it off quickly then check themselves and do the "team" thing of going sideways and backwards, often leaving our selves in a worse position when we end up going down the line to congestion.

I firmly believe the reason some players like Barlow are on the outer and others who seem to show no real value add to the team are getting picked is due to the selection panel (Roly) wanting to reward those who follow orders more than those who play naturally.

they used to talk about the total "buy in" players had to show to be picked in a Ross Lyon team, which is all well and good if the game plan works and makes sense, if however it doesn't work (as seems to be the current case) your team is in for a very long time in the wilderness if you penalise those looking to actually make something happen.
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Noddy Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #27

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You know of someone attending training that saw something happen....I knew it was the coach's fault.
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purplepower Why have a coach 7 years 11 months ago #28

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Bad manegment is the answer especially when you don't see it coming and in his own words "we're not happy on what we've done over summer " on a 5 year contract it's not good enough
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