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TOPIC: Skills

guy smiley Skills 7 years 11 months ago #15

guy smiley
Drubs, there's a bunch of players at Freo in the 10-50 game bracket. They've been brought in over a few years. Talk is that he doesn't do that so how did those guys get to 50 games or whatever they've played then?


* I've got no idea of the accuracy of this argument but I'll defend it until the Internet burns down.
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Montrachet Skills 7 years 11 months ago #16

Montrachet
Drubbs, did you want us to have a crack at the premiership last year or blood all the youngsters? You can have both.
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Burton Skills 7 years 11 months ago #17

Burton
Playing finals, short breaks etc doesn't seem to worry Hawthorn too much. Our players probably got bored with all the winning of games we saw over the previous 4 years.
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Corporal Agarn Skills 7 years 11 months ago #18

Corporal Agarn
I get what you're saying Morgan and perhaps the travel thing comes in, but Hawthorn, Geelong and Sydney have been up for years, a lot longer than us in fact.
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rogerrocks Skills 7 years 11 months ago #19

rogerrocks
Must be the travel then?
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Raglan Matt Skills 7 years 11 months ago #20

Raglan Matt
Look at the down the ground view from any of Freo's games this year, and when the ball is in Freo's forward line, the opposition have all their players back of centre (even centre square at times) on many occasions. Do they cop the same flak as Freo for this congestion? No. Why not?
The idea that the Hawks play with a forward line that stays in the forward line is a myth that continues to find traction. Their were many occasions yesterday that they kicked to a vacant forward line , just the same as Freo do, but don't seem to cop criticism for it. Their "silky skills " were not so silky in the first half either, but that was due to the fact they were missing "Roughy, Luke and Cyril the spiritual heart of the club" What a mob of sycophants the Ch 7 excuses for commentators are.
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Bizkit Skills 7 years 11 months ago #21

Bizkit
Of course teams are going to push up when they have to. The difference is we'll have extra numbers in defence because we have 7/8 defenders on their 6 forwards while we'll have 4/5 forwards against their 6 defenders at every center bounce. We start off in the negative, defensive mindset and flood our defense more heavily.
Nathan: When did you get balls?
Simon: I've always had balls you've just never seen them.
Nathan: That's the gayest thing I've ever heard.
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DockerKnockers Skills 7 years 11 months ago #22

DockerKnockers
In that third quarter, I thought the Hawks had an extra in defence ... centre and forward ... bloody maggots.
Gone to bigfooty where there's fewer Docker Haters.
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Mushroom Skills 7 years 11 months ago #23

Mushroom
The football Geelong played against Adelaide on Friday was Fremantle through and through of a couple of years back. And what I wish still was today. And, yes, while you have one reasonable tall back in Taylor holding it together back there, your one tall forward in Hawkins is mediocre at best.

Whether it is exacting or exhausting, it is effective and, dare I say it, necessary to work harder than it is possible for most other teams to work.

Be it running back. Running forward. Running sideways a bit before doing the other. With a bit of kick, handpass and tackle in between. You just have to move the fire-truck faster than the other mob. And your midfielders need to kick most of the goals, with one or two forwards chipping in with an individual multiple.

Honestly, Freo simply don't have the broad fitness base to compete.

Whatever you blame it on: Travel... Bad luck... 5 years of Ross Lyoning... Ever-growing mind doubt over the impact of exhaust fumes while being stuck in traffic getting into and out of Cockburn Central West getting closer by the day... Whatever. The fact is Freo just have to overcome this or give up. And we will applaud.
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Raglan Matt Skills 7 years 11 months ago #24

Raglan Matt
As I said in another post Mushy it is not a fitness problem. If you hit targets from one end of the ground to the other, and then kick GOALS, you don't have to run a lot. We need to hit the targets, the most draining thing to your endurance is to have to stop and run back the other way continually. That is why the most sadistic coaches love suicide running, it is bloody hard work.
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shane Skills 7 years 11 months ago #25

shane
I've found us a new skills development coach.

www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-17/world-lon...athan-griggs/7415912
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The_Yeti Skills 7 years 11 months ago #26

The_Yeti
Egurls Suck!
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Mushroom Skills 7 years 11 months ago #27

Mushroom
Goodness, Raglan! There are no teams who hit targets consistently well in good positions any more. None. Not even Hawthorn.

Granted, Freo would appear to be pretty bad in 2016 based on the ciritical moment howlers we've all witnessed, and possibly on the % efficiency stats that I can't be bothered to look up right now - By the way I think this is a pretty useless stat and would put money on the difference between the highest and lowest team on this stat being 4 or 5 % at max, so if 75 out of 100 kicks hitting a target for one team makes them so much more winningish that the other team with 71 kicks out of 100 hitting a target then I'll whistle dixie even though I don't know how it goes.

But man, oh man, all the talk during the unprecedented period of on-field confidence that was the first 2.5 months of the 2015 season was the fitness base of 40% more running during pre-season. Bone breakages, whacked backs, rolled ankles, deep corkages and snapped hamstring fibres from overstretching when shoved were what brought it all undone.

2016 Freo have neither the fitness base nor the capability to absorb or cover the crash bang snap injuries, so we're fooked.
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FD1016 Skills 7 years 11 months ago #28

FD1016
"2016 Freo have neither the fitness base nor the capability to absorb or cover the crash bang snap injuries"

Probably true but what I'd like to know is why...
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