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The_Yeti They're Lining Up 8 years 3 weeks ago #43

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No.

The lawyers were appointed by the AFLPA, except for two who chose their own lawyers.

They were paid by the AFLPA with the money coming from Essendon.

The facts are pretty clear. The players were willing participants.

That's borne out by the evidence including the players own text messages and emails as well as their own testimony both the ASADA investigators and the evidence given by the players who appeared before the CAS panel.

They will have a claim against the club for providing an unsafe workplace. A claim that will be mitigated somewhat by their own actions. Players like Heppell will get some compensation but they won't get all they claim because they simply are not innocent parties. They may in fact be conspirators.
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jezzaargh They're Lining Up 8 years 3 weeks ago #44

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did the players really know what they were willingly participating in?

that could be a significant element in Heppell's claim - being mislead by the Club.
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The_Yeti They're Lining Up 8 years 3 weeks ago #45

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Consider the nature of the material that was located on their mobile telephones where they discussed what they were being given and the effect is was having on their physiques. Mature bodies do not add significant muscle mass in a preseason without significant help.

Consider the facts that the players withheld all knowledge from the club doctor and all players tested failed to report it on their declarations at the time of the test. They all signed consent forms for the various substances albeit poorly named on those forms.

Consider that no player has claimed they were misled by the claim even though some parties have intimated it was all Dank's doing. Consider that neither Essendon or the players have taken any action against Dank.

There is no reasonable grounds to suggest the players have been misled. None.
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jimb2 They're Lining Up 8 years 3 weeks ago #46

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I'm a willing participant at my workplace, but if the roof falls on my desk I have a case against my employer. The employer is required to maintain a safe workplace, comply with relevant laws and avoid unreasonable risks.

There is (obviously) no way that the players agreed to what actually happened to them, ie, banned substances, no records. Did they sign a document that said "We plan to trial some substances that might get you banned"? I think not.

This is a completely different issue to the question of whether the players wrong or idiots. I'm certainly not saying it was all the club's fault, or something like that. The anti-doping system can't work if athletes can offload responsibility on their coaches or support staff. However, both sides have responsibilities and the club certainly failed theirs.
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shane They're Lining Up 8 years 3 weeks ago #47

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Unless you were involved in the roofing business, I don't see how the roof falling on your desk would damage your reputation.
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cookie They're Lining Up 8 years 3 weeks ago #48

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In a case like that there'd probably be a ceiling on the claim
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Morgan They're Lining Up 8 years 3 weeks ago #49

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If I was Chris Bond, I'd publish a compromising photo of Nat Fyfe that would damage his reputation, so that I could 'settle' with a sum that was 'in no way inflated for salary cap purposes'. The real question is how does one go about embarrassing Fyfe when he considers wearing this abomination is good for his reputation?
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pollyanna They're Lining Up 8 years 3 weeks ago #50

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I saw that couch in a verge-side pick-up in Cannington! Who would've thought of making a jacket/vest out of it.
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hypen They're Lining Up 8 years 3 weeks ago #51

hypen
Fyfe just had a Teasdale moment.
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Dr Sleep They're Lining Up 8 years 3 weeks ago #52

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Yeah. Not too many that could pull that look off. But he is managing it (just about). Plus if he wraps in plastic it will last forever and he can have something spesh for his grand kids to wear to their Brownlow ceremonies.
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prefect They're Lining Up 8 years 2 weeks ago #53

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I heard he had it scotch guarded any way.
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DS They're Lining Up 8 years 2 weeks ago #54

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That jacket goes a long way to explaining why he's still single.
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pollyanna They're Lining Up 8 years 2 weeks ago #55

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Yeah, the trick to verge-side pickups is getting the thing before the neighbourhood dogs know it's there - even better if it doesn't rain before you get the ute around.

But I've been told that generally women like a fella that isn't all that bright with a bit of a pong to him - stands to reason that Fyfey is single.
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freofan61 They're Lining Up 8 years 2 weeks ago #56

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The trouble with Fyfey is that he has so much going for him, I'm surprised he hasn't been killed in the crush of females vying for his attention, that's probably why he's still single.
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