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TOPIC: Not use to losing

guy smiley Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #29

guy smiley
Not used to losing?

Where were you for the first 17 years of Freo in the AFL?

Where were you for the first nine derbies? Come to think of it, where were you for the tenth? I was in the brand new two tier city end stand myself... beautiful day out, a soft drizzle softened the light and lent a spectral green glow to the later part of the game something similar to the light I can make out behind me when I bend over actually...

but I digress. Teams don't just win all the time. That sort of hogwash is what they ram down the OOFTIT supporters throats from kindergarten onwards... and they love a bit of that. Hogwash, that is. Sport is about competing. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, but you always compete.

this win or I'm out attitude irks me deeply in the irrits. It's a trademark of that other mob... turn on your team when they lose, spit feral camel custard all over the joint so no-one else can enjoy the sights or park in safety there for years to come, then disappear for weeks or months, only to pop out of the woodwork like locusts as soon as they win one.

Is that how you want to carry on? Is that how you want to be perceived? Flat track bullies, downhill skiers, chardonnay supping barrackers by number? It's either a WA style thing or it's them.

you've got the hopes of a whole state on your shoulders here. Don't be them. Be us. We used to laugh in the face of a loss. We used to laugh because it was fun, and funny. It still is.

A few points..

i) you go in with one ruckman for various reasons and commence towelling up the more fancied opposition, dominating... DOMINATING folks, everywhere but the scoreboard.
ii) your ruckman gets taken out in a savage attack lacking only a grassy knoll to confirm every thinking sportsfan's suspicions regarding the draw, the fixture, the draft and the chances of getting yet another Prime Minister before the finals start.
iii) you see the team shift into lockdown mode to survive until half time and make do with a kid who's played a few games as a sort of defender, sort of forward in the ruck.
iv) it sort of works. Things get a little scary in the 3rd as the score gets a bit lopsided... but there's a sniff still there.
v) you almost get your head in front in the last when you really should have been dead and buried by then with Dermott Brereton doing a smirking jig on your grave. Junktime goals see the score blow out again.

Seriously... that's a decent effort. Yeah, it's disappointing to lose, but that is some sort of effort. Not everyone can make the chooks look like crap every time they play them, either. I reckon you could do with some deep breathing and some manning up. It'll take a while yet but there's some winning left in this team yet. Wait until Bennell is fit enough. Griff was always good value in his own right as the ruckman. Mundy's calf should be weaned sometime soon.

There's plenty to look forward to. It might not be top two or top four but stranger things have happened.

Play the music loud.
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Freolifer Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #30

Freolifer
Well said Guy Smiley
I for one will be there for the team no matter what - keep the faith Dockerlanders things will turn our way you wait & see
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Drubbing Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #31

Drubbing
I too was there on those windswept benches in 2001, when the only company I had was a cold pie. The easy access to the toilets is still missed however.

Believe me, no amount of blind optimism will wilfully turn a team around. That's for the supporters' own mental health.

Nor does it make a poor supporter to voice the blind freddyisms that can't be seen by the pathologically optimistic.

This team and Lyon might get something together, they're probably better than half the teams in the comp. But a flag and some watchable football, just got a lot further away.
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bpurple Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #32

bpurple
What exactly is "watchable football"? When Sydney beat the slime in an absolute grind of a GF I found that extremely watchable. I much prefer five or six point wins to 30 point losses. I guess I just love seeing my team play win lose or draw, whinging or happy I still bleed purple.
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redandblue Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #33

redandblue
Im pretty sure that was my original point Guy S but thanks for reiterating.
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Corporal Agarn Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #34

Corporal Agarn
Any game when the slime lose is watchable for me.
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Drubbing Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #35

Drubbing
Watchable football is many things.

Lyon's style of football does have its elements of watchabilty - but they're a long way off being able to do it any more. Watchable footy is the pressure tacking frenzy of Rolyball at its best, it's also letting players off the leash and streaming through the middle footy. It's competitive, skilled, hard fought football.

It isn't soap juggling skill errors of static players, hospital passes, kicks at blokes feet, or over their head. Or kicking into congested forward lines and hoping for the best. Or missing set shots from 25 in front over and over and over again.
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Bizkit Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #36

Bizkit
I've been around since the very beginning and I can guarantee there's a massive difference between the days of laughs and optimism with kill Phil shirts and the modern side.

For one the Steve's have done their best to kill off long suffering supporters and issue in those who are after success any way they can attach their name to it. In a truly fashionable modern way we have been a 'success at any cost' club for a few years now and it hasn't sat well with me. It works ok with supporters as long as the side is winning but there are massive holes when we are not. It has lead to unlikable football played in a poor way that few want to watch.

It will take a lot to get back up from our current position.
Nathan: When did you get balls?
Simon: I've always had balls you've just never seen them.
Nathan: That's the gayest thing I've ever heard.
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guy smiley Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #37

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I can't be ars ed taking this up on the game plan thread because that seems to be whinge central... but when Lyon took over the first season was ugly and frustrating. I wasn't a fan and coming so soon after the Steves' grand plan for world domination was enacted it compounded things for me and probably a lot of others.

I think we're seeing a similar thing now... thankfully Lyon has accepted the need for a different game plan, which so many demanded ironically, and now the players are struggling as they try and implement it. Things went rather well in general after the initial teething troubles were ironed out way back then though, if I remember correctly. I expect something similar to unfold this season. Meanwhile, there are younger players coming into the regular starting team frequently enough to suggest there is a development program in place and working despite what some followers would have you believe and people still get blinded by other clubs' success rate to the extent they seem to really want to be part of that themselves.

I still reckon we'll have a different PM by finals' time, by the way. Aaaaand I still hate what the Steves have done to this club.
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blockerhall Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #38

blockerhall
Damn it. I'm saying it again. I would have rather have a premiership in 2012 playing harveyball while the hawks weren't quite as good. That semi final loss to Adelaide was bloody ridiculous. As good an example of why Ross Lyon is an ordinary coach when the pressure goes on. Should never have lost that game. 2013 maybe we would back it up, or maybe a premiership hangover, we'll never know. The 2013 GF was the worst example of how not to play if you were Fremantle. How many goals to half time again?

But that was our window, get used to it folks, we spent it like the Purple Jesus in front of goal rolling the dice. 2014-5 was the post peak of a confident team that had played a lot of footy , but on the way out. And that team, those players, that is substantially Harvey's team or ours from that period of draftiing, plus Zac Dawson, *sigh*

Yes I've read Purple Heart, and the suggestion of communication issues from harvey, not for one moment am i saying he was perfect, but there will always be dissent about a coach whithin a playing group somewhere, somehow. He deserved his shot. I watched the first quarter of football under Lyon, and it was glorious, we smashed the cats, but we were playing Harveyball on instinct; it was the most beautiful thing i had seen from the purple, but i kid you not, the book got thrown at the players that night, we got the defensive structures back in place, and geelong came storming back into the game. From memory we ground out the win. Huzzah. But that was the last time i saw us play run and stun footy that kicked goals. Footy that puts you in the top 2 today, not grinding defensive footy that wearied older bodies with the worst travel arrangements have to recover from. Our footy was and is unsustainable. Time to pay the piper.
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DJKL Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #39

DJKL
Surely the worst thing about our current form is that it makes Brad Johnson look like a pre-season prediction genius?
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The_Yeti Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #40

The_Yeti
Theres no excuse for that DJKL
Egurls Suck!
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Jezza Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #41

Jezza
You're giving Brad Johnson too much credit. He's prediction would have been on the back of some news he'd gotten about our club, the pre-season and now 3 games into this season proper. He's not going to divulge the source. He's no Footy expert. Nor am I for that matter. But his prediction about Freo's fate, had to come from someone in the know within the confines of the purple wall. So I'm giving Brad Johnson no credit. Unless he's a psychic.
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bpurple Not used to losing 8 years 3 weeks ago #42

bpurple
Brad Johnson is a smart arse who annoys the crap out of me, I am hoping for a big rest of the season just to see him eat his words.
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