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TOPIC: How do they live with themselves?

Walter the baker How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #1

Walter the baker
The AFL and Essendon are now pursuing the one guy who took them on in the courts to find out what was actually injected into him. Their PR/legal guys should be shot for letting this get out of hand.

if this article doesn't sum up this whole debacle then nothing does. They've injected the youngest player in the club with a substance they can't identify and now they are chasing him because he wants to know what it was. Someone needs to end up in jail.

www.theage.com.au/afl/essendon-saga-pare...20160115-gm6l85.html
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Morgan How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #2

Morgan
Far be it for me to defend Essendon, but 'pursuing costs' could mean anything. For example, if his lawyers have sought an interlocutory hearing on completely specious grounds, it would be perfectly reasonable for Essendon to ask that their costs for attending are covered. This is vastly different to 'making a claim' against the poor chap, which the article implies.
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shane How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #3

shane
I'm no sports scientist but it seems to me that the time to find out what you're being injected with is before you agree to let them inject you with it.
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jimb2 How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #4

jimb2
Also a good idea to find out what you might be up for before you inject yourself into the legal system.
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Troll How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #5

Troll
Sorry Morgan but I’m just trying to get my head around this.
If Hal has asked Essendon to tell him what he was injected with and they have refused and taken a combative stance against him which has resulted in him having to engage lawyers to take action that compels them to do so which has then involved the AFL, who have now been asked to provide the information they hold, how is it reasonable for either the club or the AFL to ask for costs to attend?

I’m assuming they are doing this through the court because the club and AFL have not provided the information when it was initially requested so he no choice but to take a legal path.

I would have thought it would be better to provide the information they had when asked by Hal and not only when told by a court. Same with the AFL.
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Raglan Matt How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #6

Raglan Matt
If Essendon, as they claim, used no illegal substances, they have no reason not to tell any player who asks, what was administered. If on the other hand, they have been party to the injection of illegal substances, they have every reason not to tell any player what they were injected with. No wonder WADA thought there was something slightly smelling of fish about their claims of innocence.

In reference to an earlier post, Sky news called Hird out on his backflip over the statement that the buck stops with him.
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rogerrocks How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #7

rogerrocks
Bugger Essendon. Delist them if they don't tell everything they know.
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RideoftheVagaries How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #8

RideoftheVagaries
They know nothing. Notthhhinggg!!!
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Drubbing How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #9

Drubbing
This thing won't ever stop. The only thing I've heard that remotely connected with me through all this crap, was Fahey, as past president of WADA telling Koche that the AFL has to wake up to personal responsibility.

Swimmers, divers and track athletes are all part of teams and often train as such for big events. They share doctors and trainers. The onus is on all these individuals to ensure what they take is ON the list. Regardless of what a doctors tells them. Would you trust Lance Armstrong's postal team doctor?

Essendon players are trying to hide behind media-fanned issues of youth, pressure, admin approval and anything else that removes personal responsibility for what they take. If you don't understand what you being asked to take and can't find it on the list, then don't take it. Plenty of international swimmers way younger than these blokes who are more savvy. If they're cheating, they know it.

Yes, AFL clubs have had a strong culture of 'do what the club tells you'. But they have to realise, in this area, they are not special or unique.

If this is what it takes for the AFL and clubs to get it through their collective thick and self righteous heads that they are somehow exempt from established rules in pro sport, when wake up.
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rogerrocks How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #10

rogerrocks
I'm happy to accept that this whole thing has been unfair on the players. But the key thing is that it *has* to be. Otherwise the clubs would appoint scapegoats who would confess whenever a drug scandal broke, and they would take responsibility and say that they did it without the club's knowledge or permission, and that the player(s) concerned thought he was getting a vitamin D injection.

It is sad for the players, but without them being punished (and rather more quickly than this absurdly drawn out saga) there is virtually no disincentive for clubs to use illegal drugs on players.
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The_Yeti How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #11

The_Yeti
I'm not really impressed by the 'players are victims' line. I think its crap. The players were as the architects of their own problems as any other participant.

They failed their responsibilities under the code as they have been repeatedly taught to check the status of any substances. In my role on the committee of a swimming club, I can tell you we had 15 year olds who knew how to do this stuff...because they were responsible.

They failed their responsibilities under the code to report all supplements and medicines to the club doctor

They failed their responsibilities under the code to report to the ASADA drug testers when they were doing in competition testing. Apparently they could remember and reported taking panadol but couldn't remember the dozens of off site injections. Seriously?

They signed declarations of secrecy as far as the injection regime was concerned.

Yet, not once has any player accepted their own level of responsibility and the CAS panel even found that the evidence given by players to the panel was 'unreliable' and 'detracted from their credibility'

Frankly, they look as guilty as the CAS panel said they were
Egurls Suck!
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jimb2 How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #12

jimb2
The nicest thing I can say about the players is that they were stupid enough to think that because they were all doing it it might have been ok. The mob mentality thing.

Other than that, they were complete idiots, collectively and individually.
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larkin How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #13

larkin
with enough wooden spoons they could burn the club down
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guy smiley How do they live with themselves? 8 years 3 months ago #14

guy smiley
If karma was a horse it would kick 'em in the head.

If the AwFL had a spine they'd throw the book so hard they'd pop a shoulder. They got relegated out of the finals for bad governance. Since then they've admitted to the Vic Industrial Relations Commission to providing an unsafe workplace AND suffered the humiliation of the CAS verdict, yet no sanctions from the AFL.

Jokeshop. As much as I hate the code, the NRL did a much better job and look professional in comparison.

The NRL. Professional. Jebus.
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