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TOPIC: If No McCarthy?

Eventually If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #15

Eventually
Obviously we should move mountains to snatch McCarthy but I agree that if the deal cannot be done then Apeness as a tall target at in the square and a far ranging very mobile Taberner at CHF still looks a pretty formidable combination when surrounded by Walters, Ballantyne, Harley and Mayne. Throw in a Black, Kersten or Casbault as alternative tall options and I think our forward lines scoring output would have to improve by at least 2 goals a game.
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DockerKnockers If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #16

DockerKnockers
If Freo land McCarthy, on $700k, I don't see how Pav could play without taking a massive pay cut. In 2013 Pav was on at least $700k. I fail to see how both can fit in Freo's Salary cap (even with Pav's $120 odd k veteran salary not included).
I would think there would not be much change left after subtracting AA Luke, Duffield and Crowley, then adding Bennell to the equation.

I think Pav may only play if Freo don't land McCarthy. I hope I'm wrong, I would love to see Pav and McCarthy line up together.
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timmeh If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #17

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A portion of pav's salary is through the veterens list dont forget. McPHarlin comes off that list, I'm not sure is MJ moves onto it? Crowley and Duffs are the other elder statesmen but they werent on big money.

There is obviously sentiment attached to barlow, but if the paper was throwing him up as an option, to get McCarthy, might be worthwile to consider.. but just how much depth do we lack with the number of players aldready been removed from the list

If we don't get McCarthy, then there is no one out there who is worth our pick 22, not black or kersten. So fingers crossed Keiren Collins (tall defender) is still available or Harry Mckay (200cm tall forward)

There is talk of rookie listing an 18 year old exmouth boy who plays FF for Hale. But thats rookie list..
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DockerKnockers If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #18

DockerKnockers
The veterans effect on salary cap rules changed a few years ago.
It is now 1.229% of the Total Player Payments which I estimated to be about $120k.
A player needs 10 years of service for the same club to qualify.
Therefore, Freo have no new additions this year. Mundy, Crowley & MJ were added in 2015. We lose AA Luke off the veterans. Duffield would have qualified in 2016.

I think it used to be 50% of the salary which was huge for Freo given 211 was on a $1m and Pav on $700k. Now it's the $120k (or thereabouts) for each player that qualifies.
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expat If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #19

expat
I thought Gold Coast only wanted a couple second round draft picks for Charlie Dixon. Surely pick 22 and next year's first round pick would secure the deal.
Otherwise we tell Pav to hit the training track for another 2 years.
Forget McCarthy, it all smacks desperation to me.

We have had our forward for the next 2 years in Crowley, but we threw that baby out with the bath water.
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dddocker If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #20

dddocker
I think we should redraft Sam Mengola and Jacob Ballard if possible. Shane Yarran is an obvious target but he could be out before we get a chance.
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Mushroom If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #21

Mushroom
Taberner will be better than many of you think.

Crikey! If Brendan Fevola with all the brain computational power of a nintendo game&watch Octopus can turn four years as a crabstick into seven consecutive years of 50+ goals, Taberner is going to be one to press Game B for.
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slammen If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #22

slammen
If we can't pick up Cam Mac in this trade period and at the risk of being lynched for saying it but lets pick up Daniel Rioli (if he's still their)

People would trade a lot to get a Rioli in their team, after a couple of years being developed he could be the next Harley Bennell.
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Morgan If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #23

Morgan
Mushroom, I'm keen to know the basis for thinking Tabs will be any good. Fev was quick off the mark, strong, had a great kick, and read the ball beautifully in flight. Sure, he was a knucklehead, but he had the tools.

Tabs has good height and good aerobic capacity for a big guy. He doesn't seem to have much else.

I think he can be a handy complimentary player, but I just don't see him being any sort of focal point. Hope to be proven wrong.
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demo1 If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #24

demo1
Have to agree with Morgan here Mushroom.
I think you are selling Fev short. He was a star and almost from day 1 (think 10 goals on new years eve 1999).
He was a natural footballer. Dumb yes, no doubt but he had all the skills.
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TheColonel If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #25

TheColonel
Put Fev in the same class as Mark (Jacko) Jackson.
Skillful and could kick a great goal - but F...ed in the head.
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Corporal Agarn If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #26

Corporal Agarn
It seems that the only trades that can't get done are McCarthy, Yarran & Aish.

How long do you wait in this stand off game? Do you put all your eggs in the Cammac basket and perhaps miss out altogether? Do you arrange a second best option thingy with Carlton to get Casboult? If you do this though I assume GWS would know and they keep McCarthy which is what they want.

Why do GWS let every other player who wants out and not McCarthy? It's not like they're light on for forwards.

Is it Bond & Lloyd? Other clubs manage do do three and four way trades while we struggle to achieve anything.
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Raglan Matt If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #27

Raglan Matt
Never underestimate the long memory and capacity for revenge of a back pocket player. Sheedy will never forget, and will never let ANY of his mates forget.
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Jason If No McCarthy? 8 years 5 months ago #28

Jason
It appears that two other forward targets, Black from North and Casboult from Carlton, are not going anywhere. Freo have (apparently) cooled on Black and Casboult is about the last recognised forward Carlton have.

Makes me think that something will happen with Cammac, in that case.
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