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TOPIC: Here We Go Again

Raglan Matt Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #29

Raglan Matt
Well said DK.
I don't think that Howe would bring anything of value to Freo, and even if we do miss out on McCarthy and Luenburger, I would not take him. I would rate Tabs in front of him, and there is still plenty of upside to Tabs.
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Rhufus Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #30

Rhufus
the bad luck weve had with our three first round draft picks Simpson, Mora and Pitt has really hurt us too.
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purple kit Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #31

purple kit
So we're Yeo's 5 votes the ones that cost Priddis the brownlow? If so he's alright in my book.
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markh295 Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #32

markh295
I still cannot believe that we passed on Jack Darling (WA Boy) and took Jayden Pitt when we were getting desperate to find a replacement for Pavlich when he retired. Everyone tipped Fremantle to take him except Fremantle
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clinical Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #33

clinical
And now Bennel is having meetings with Richmond and Gws is saying Mcarthy is likely to stay. Top men!
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ghq Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #34

ghq
I heard recently there has been increased speculation that WCE clouded the social issues about Darling to lessen other club's interest prior to the Draft. Possibly young Mr Bond was taken in by it.
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Jooter Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #35

Jooter
Clinical, true, Bennell reported to have talks with Richmond, but that was a few weeks ago. Also, GWS came out with a statement to say Cam M was a required player, but I haven't seen any press that indicates he's definitely staying.

Where did you hear what you stated?
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goodie Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #36

goodie
Jooter, Bennell met with Richmond yesterday. It was all over the afl site and new sites. They brought out the big guns- Dustin Martin, Chocco Williams etc. presumably to use Martin as an example of the way the club and Williams can turn players lives around etc. They met for a few hours.

GWS coach Leon Cameron is saying that he is in regular contact with Mccarthy and that he will be there next year. He would say that though. There has not been any word from Mccarthy though and hopefully Freo are putting the hard word on him (hint-this is your job Bond. Got that?) because there is very little a club can do these days if a player puts their foot down and demands out. It's not the 1970's, a deal will eventually be reached.

It is hard to not be resigned to losing both of these deals. I expect it to be completely ballsed up.
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Jooter Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #37

Jooter
Thanks Goodie.
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Ricco Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #38

Ricco
I struggle to see the angst in our previous recruiting decisions and inability to get some of these over the line. Yes, it is disappointing as to the lack of KPP's, but I hardly see that as the clubs fault.

At some point, any recruitment decision has to balance:
i. Commercial terms - obviously the balance between what the player is worth and what we want to pay. I certainly wouldn't want to be the Bulldogs with Tom Boyd being paid $1m a year or Syderny with $10m for Buddy over 10 years.
Further to this, the natural extension is that you need to pay "overs" to get someone to move. This relies on predicting whether that player will provide a return on investment, never an easy task.
ii. Whether the player actually wants to come. E.g. Cloke never wanted to come to Freo despite being courted.
iii. Whether a trade can be done with the original club - which may (or may not) eventuate with McCarthy.

What I am saying is that it is easy to sit back and say "Bond didn't get it done, he is useless". I think from what I have seen, Freo take a balanced perspective to not sell the farm for a player that may or may not be the messiah.
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shane Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #39

shane
The value for money argument is nonsense. It might hurt the ego to pay more than you would like for a player but if you go into a season without the players you need then you're wasting all your money.
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Raglan Matt Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #40

Raglan Matt
There is not much Freo can do when these players and managers are just using Freo to boost their paycheck and managers % at where ever they really want to be, a la Clarke, Cloke and co.
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goodie Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #41

goodie
I agree Shane, and if the rest of your team is pretty good your not really selling the farm to get everything.
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Ricco Here We Go Again 8 years 5 months ago #42

Ricco
It isn't a zero sum game like the premier league.

Inflating player salaries means they need to pay others less to fit in the cap. We have done a very good (exceptional I would say) job at retaining some of our young talent. The likes of Lachy Neale will be paid more in the future and you don't want to lose the ability to do this.
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