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TOPIC: Why do Frees cost so much

DockerKnockers Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #1

DockerKnockers
Firstly, I apologise in advance to those of you who are sick of my rants about how hard Freo is done by with umpiring, but it is something that I refuse to just accept it as it is. Once again Freo loses a game and the Frees Against are greater than our Frees For, so a quick update on the stats.

Frees For - Frees Against (differential) for 2015 (up to and including Round 21);
75 Richmond
58 West Coast Eagles
52 North Melbourne
33 Gold Coast Suns
25 Collingwood
25 Hawthorn
15 Western Bulldogs
12 Carlton
-10 GWS Giants
-12 Adelaide Crows
-15 Port Adelaide
-18 Melbourne
-23 Essendon
-32 Brisbane Lions
-41 Fremantle
-43 St Kilda
-50 Geelong Cats
-51 Sydney Swans

Frees For - Frees Against (differential) for 2013 R1 to 2015 R21;
185 West Coast Eagles
112 North Melbourne
96 Carlton
87 Richmond
74 Adelaide Crows
34 Geelong Cats
33 Hawthorn
8 Collingwood
7 Western Bulldogs
-16 Melbourne
-35 Port Adelaide
-41 Gold Coast Suns
-46 Essendon
-47 Sydney Swans
-83 GWS Giants
-115 Brisbane Lions
-115 St Kilda
-139 Fremantle

Games NOT won and Frees For are less than Frees Against in a row;
(ie. the last 10 games Freo have lost, we have also lost the Free kick count in every one of those games, the list below shows how many games, not won, in a row for each club where they have been on the wrong side of the free kick tally for that game)
3 Adelaide Crows
0 Brisbane Lions
1 Carlton
1 Collingwood
0 Essendon
10 Fremantle
4 Geelong Cats
0 Gold Coast Suns
0 GWS Giants
0 Hawthorn
0 Melbourne
1 North Melbourne
1 Port Adelaide
1 Richmond
2 St Kilda
1 Sydney Swans
1 West Coast Eagles
4 Western Bulldogs
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Dockerplus Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #2

Dockerplus
IMPRESSIVE
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KingKepler Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #3

KingKepler
2015

Pavlich 14 for 23 against

Sandilands 17 for 21 against

Fyfe 22 for 37 against

Suban 15 for 31 against

Why is this happening?
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Morgan Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #4

Morgan
Well, in Fyfe's case it's because he runs around giving away blatant free kicks.
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rogerrocks Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #5

rogerrocks
And Sandi needs to see a Selwood and take ducking lessons.
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Duges66 Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #6

Duges66
It'd be a hell of a lot worse had Crowley, Zac D, Duffield, Taberner & De Boer (particularly this yr) had had more game time.
Suban don't get me started - fair dinkum is a friggin dill with the amount of stupid frees he gives away.
You'd reckon being a full time job they'd of had a chance to have a little sit down with him about it.
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Drubbing Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #7

Drubbing
I thinks it's a combination of -

We don't play for frees often
When we do, we don't get them.
We have too many players give away frees
Too many of those are soft ones, and don't get paid for us at the other end.
There are ruck rules for Sandilands that don't apply to other ruckmen.

Some umps are biased.
Some are cheats.
Some are flat out crap at it.
Some are all of the above.
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guy smiley Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #8

guy smiley
I choose to boo.
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Raglan Matt Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #9

Raglan Matt
It doesn't only happen to Freo
www.afl.com.au/news/2015-08-25/umpires-a...ints-a-win-over-cats

It just seems like no-one else notices when it does.

On another note, I wonder whether N Burke would have been stood down from the MRP if he had said publicly that Fyfe deserved a week for his cowardly hit on Jacobs.
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Drubbing Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #10

Drubbing
Seriously though, should there be such a big discrepancy?

Is it jsut conventional wisdom that frees for and against should be fairly even across the comp, allowing for exceptions of clubs like WC, Geelong and NM who duck, dive, slide and fake head explosions, weekly?

Shouldn't you expect the top teams to draw an average of more frees than the rest, generally being first to the ball, dictating a lot of play, and frustrating their opponents, who give softys away?

If so, why is Freo down the bottom of the barrel in getting frees?

Why are the umpires just so crap?
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Corporal Agarn Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #11

Corporal Agarn
Don't do it against Sydney Guy.

Although their free kick count is the worst in the league this year.
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DockerKnockers Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #12

DockerKnockers
Sydney appear to be having a bad year in 2015 with the umpiring statistics.

On another completely unrelated Sydney topic, I've been hearing on the Footy shows how the AFL and the Sydney Swans have had some issues this year with COLA and the Buddy, Tippett deal and statements made public to the media.
Gone to bigfooty where there's fewer Docker Haters.
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purple kit Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #13

purple kit
So also in that article Rosenballs pretty much admited he only reported fyfe to stop the Roos players remonstrating!

"Players came in to remonstrate and as soon as I said a report had been laid, they all separated and we were able to get on with the game."
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pollyanna Why do Frees cost so much 8 years 7 months ago #14

pollyanna
Part of being on top (and being from 'somewhere else') means you will cop more than your share from the umpires. Part and parcel, the umpires are the official lawn mowers in a field of mature poppies - everybody loves them except their victims.

But that thug Fyfe is a runaway wrecking ball - if only those Lake Grace sheep could be interviewed by A Current Affair, he would be outed as the next Big Bad Bazza.
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