All teams and I don't care who they are, fumble kick short or long, miss handballs and tackles when put under pressure they were not expecting or are not used to. Has anyone seen any of the Hawks losses this year? They look second rate, its just the nature of losing. As for us losing to an undermanned WCE side, WCE could not beat a severely undermanned Gold Coast side, what does it mean? It means if you don't bring your A game for the whole game you give the opposition opportunity to win. Our pressure in the first quarter on the weekend was non existent the second quarter was even and Freo won the second half. Lesson is you cant give top four teams six goal starts and expect to reel them in. That game is now consigned to the dustbin of history, lets smash our next challenger and get back to the business of winning.