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TOPIC: You know you've had a bad day when .....

Grub You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #1

Grub
i. Josh Hill wins BOG medal.
ii. Brad Shepherd gets selected in the AwFL Team of the Week.
iii. You smash Cripps in the chops hard enough to get 3-4 weeks off and only fracture (possibly) his jaw.
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Dockerplus You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #2

Dockerplus
No Freo Player made the team of the week.
Is it the first time this year?
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shane You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #3

shane
Slivagni would have made it but he pulled his punch on Cripps.

Bruised jaw? That's barely worth the cost of holding the tribunal hearing.
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Duges66 You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #4

Duges66
Silvani's indiscretion apparently has been rated intentional high impact high contact as claimed on AFL360.
Given there is no fracture and Cripps played out the game it is not much different to the Yarran / Chapman event.
I could stand corrected but has there been any other striking charge other than Yarrans for punching Chapman that has been rated high impact when the player left the field then returned to play out the game under the current MRP structure? Yarran copped 3 wks at the tribunal.

Surely Silvani claims his intent was to elbow numbnuts in the shoulder which then slipped up due to the sweat on said numbnut's shoulder.

What I see in the video is Silvani reacting to Cripps initiating a bump/blocking motion which from memory is a contravention of the laws of the game - Silvani should not have expected contact given he was not involved in the play & the ball was not within 5 meters.

Having said that Silvani - you fool what were you thinking?

A fair penalty is 3 wks any more & it's a hatchet job.
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demo1 You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #5

demo1
Have to agree duges...Cripps initiated all contact. He tried to block SCOS and a intended shoulder bump ended up getting him a bit high. No broker jaw means impact should be medium. Its more careless than intentional so 3 weeks down to 2 due to his good record is fine by me.

I get the feeling it will be a worse case scenario though which is a shame because so far every "dog act" recently that has gone to the tribunal....ie yarran punch, mckernan elbow, hodge elbow, cooney etc has got away with less than the media commentary...I hope SCOS doesnt get hung out to dry on this one
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FD1016 You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #6

FD1016
... your Slime-loving neighbours were singing the Slime's song and it's become an ear-worm and you just CANT GET IT OUT OF YOUR HEAD!!!! ARGHHHHH!
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Jason You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #7

Jason
Forget what the medja muppets are saying, the MRP made no reference to the type, height or force of Silvagni's contact with Cripps.

However, I've just watched the 'Charged' video on the AwFL website and despite the actual MRP Statement making no mention of Gradings, the two talking heads said it had been sent of with a High Contact, High Impact grading. However, they were also saying that Cripps had a fractured jaw - hence the High Impact grading.

Are these muppets making it up as they go along? If Cripps has suffered no concussion or bone damage, how can it be automatically graded as High Impact? There's your first ground for appeal right there.

Based on the fact that Blind Freddy could see SCOS was running at 3/4 pace a few metres behind his direct opponent (Lycett) when Cripps (almost stationery nearby) spots SCOS coming and takes a huge stride directly into his path. I.e. Cripps attempted to block the run of a player 70m off the ball.

In the split second SCOS had to react, he threw up his arm, which cleared Cripps' shoulder (due to him being lower from the large stride) and his elbow connected with Cripps' head.

Despite folding like a cheap suit, Cripps was able to play out the game with no ill effects from a concussion or structural perspective.

Therefore, it should be graded:

High Contact
Careless Conduct
Low Impact

Under the current rules that would be 1 week downgraded to a fine Expect the grading of Low to Medium & Careless to Reckless (or even Intentional) to happen so that the Tribunal can 'make up' for their howler last week and SCOS gets 3 weeks.

Anything more and the club must appeal. SCOS did not intend to hit Cripps - Cripps initiated the contact. If Cooney's hit on Coniglio was only graded as Medium Impact (that caused a concussion and the player missing the rest of that game as well as the following week - i.e. the same penalty as the perpetrator) then it should be classified as Low Impact.

If the Tribunal was a court of law the country would be in total anarchy. Imagine Cooney up before a judge on murder, but thanks to a glowing character reference from a former coach, he gets let off as it was his 'first' murder. That's pretty much the rationale they came up with last week.
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Jefferys You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #8

Jefferys
Couldnt put it better myself, problem is Freo has always been the AFL scapegoats
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Raglan Matt You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #9

Raglan Matt
Well masten got a "great reference" from jack darling, so the tribunal will probably take that into account, give Scos an extra 3 weeks on top of the 3 they were going to give him and let masten off with a reprimand.
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point less You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #10

point less
Does Silvani have a tatoo of his girlfriend on his arm?
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rogerrocks You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #11

rogerrocks
No, but Masten's dentist can recognise the bite marks on Subes arm.
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zorro You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #12

zorro
...you wake up and you're James Hird.
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Duges66 You know you've had a bad day when ..... 8 years 8 months ago #13

Duges66
Jason to be clear reckless no longer exists.

The following elements of the Tribunal System have been modified
for 2015:
A. ASSESSMENT OF CLASSIFIABLE OFFENCES
Conduct is now graded as Careless or Intentional (replacing Intentional,
Reckless or Negligent). The MRP will have the capacity to consider a range
of factors in grading an incident and will retain the capacity to upgrade
their assessment of the severity of Impact where there is potential to cause
serious injury.

There are a number of examples in the 2015 Tribunal booklet that show reckless is now regarded as careless e.g.
2014 CLASSIFICATION - Reckless Conduct
2015 CLASSIFICATION - Careless Conduct
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