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TOPIC: Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day?

DockerKnockers Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #29

DockerKnockers
DG,
I think the second part of my sentence may have been ambiguous to you and you took the first part out of context;
"and to get to Top 2 Freo need to win this derby, if not they may need to win 2 of the last 3 games."
I basically said we(they/Freo) either need to win this derby or else if we(they/Freo) do not then we(they/Freo) may need to win 2 of the last 3 games.
I didn't say we need to win this derby FULLSTOP. I think my use of "they" instead of "we" may have confused my statement.
Gone to bigfooty where there's fewer Docker Haters.
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Raglan Matt Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #30

Raglan Matt
I want Hill, Ibbo, Mundy and Walters fit and firing, the rest will take care of itself.
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bpurple Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #31

bpurple
Can we beat Hawthorn in a GF? Does everyone recall the 2008 GF when Geebung were supposed to just turn up, grab their second flag in a row and become titans of the modern era? The then upstart Hawks gave them a beating and their is no reason that Freo cant do the same this year. But lets just get there first and worry about whose ass we stomp when we need to.
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paul4471 Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #32

paul4471
Does anyone have access to the data on how many times we have played Hawks at the G in the last 7 or 8 years and the results? Obviously we know the important one .
I'm just interested if there's any/much track record beside the GF to go on.
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shane Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #33

shane
Played 3. Lost 3.
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Nelson Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #34

Nelson
I believe in the footy gods.

If you attempt to manipulate the ladder positions, via your own performances, so that you can gain some advantage as a result of the final ladder positions then you are absolutely guaranteed of something out of your control completely stuffing up your expected final placings or even worse, losing the game for which you gained an advantage. That's how the footy gods work, its what they do and they are damn good at it.

Managing players for the purpose of ensuring the strongest and fittest team is available during all finals games is essential. Intentionally manipulating the outcome of a game for the potential of a kinder finals draw is just not to be done, ever.

Notwithstanding the ire of the footy gods, doing so also suggests that you dont think you are good enough as a team to get the job done, dare i say it, anyone, anywhere, anytime. This is not a thought that should be entering any team members mind as they enter the finals. They are good enough, anywhere, anytime. Let the results take care of themselves and let the mighty freo team take care of the rest.
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Davo Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #35

Davo
So is what you're saying is it's OK to manage players but only when it doesn't affect the ladder position if you lose?

I know the Boomers tried to avoid playing the USA in the basketball, but that was by deliberately losing.

Ross Lyon couldn't give a stuff where the Slime, Hawks or anyone else are on the ladder. He only deliberately loses when he can't change the position of Freo on the ladder.
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shane Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #36

shane
If I may translate it into Ross Lyon for you

we only focus on what we can control
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Silence Re:Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #37

Silence
I'm not sure how anyone could believe in footy gods.

Exhibit a: Ben cousins has a Brownlow and a premiership
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shane Re:Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #38

shane
Don't pray for better results. Pray to be stronger supporters.
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Davo Re:Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #39

Davo
Ben Cousins has a Brownlow* and a premiership*.

It's similar to many winners* of the Tour de France.
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careyg Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #40

careyg
We must win the derby and finish number one and then we can start quoting Melbourne speak back at Victorians
something like.......
"Oh you have to lose 1 before you can win 1"
or
"Maybe Freo deserve to win the Grand Final, after all they've been the best team all year"
or
Maybe Gillon Mclachlan on national TV when asked who he thinks will win the GF will say "Freo will win it"

All of the above crap was used to groom us that the Hawks were favoured to win the 2013 GF
and Andrew Demetrio gave his big tip for Hawthorn instead of being impartial. What a D/Head.
Just goes to show he was head of the VAFL
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careyg Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #41

careyg
And BTW our boys WILL BEAT ANYONE on GF Day so long as we get there
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Docker by the Sea Can we beat Hawthorn on GF day? 8 years 8 months ago #42

Docker by the Sea
iMO need to win the Derby. Don't flirt with form we are only just starting to find our best form anyways. Lock a away top spot. Anyone who thinks you can pick the games you win is delusional, have we forgotten the Saints last year. Once top spot is secured, use the final 3 games to responsibly manage players without compromising the teams ability to win those games. Also 2 of the remaining 3 games require jumping on a bird. We have earnt the opportunity this year as other teams have in previous years. All of this means in my eyes we are looking the most likely to win the Flag, despite the journos opinions.
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