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TOPIC: Shafted again

Rusted On Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #1

Rusted On
So only Essendon ended up with a worse draw than us.
11 games against last years top 8, with 6 of those against the top 4.
Add in the Thursday night and Sunday evening matches to make it a tough year.
If we make it to the pointy end of the season we will have earned it.
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rogerrocks Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #2

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I wish we could play Richmond, Melbourne, the Suns and North more than once.
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Joe Nobody Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #3

Joe Nobody
Sure. But we’ve got 3 in a row at home before heading to SA to play Richmond. If we’re worth anything this year, we’re 4-1 after the early rounds.
At some point we have to just win away against good teams. It’s the only way to a flag, the AFL will never lay out the red carpet for Freo.
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Purple Shades Re:Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #4

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Apologies if it goes against popular opinion but it’s difficult to judge next years fixtures now, it’s a bit like complaining over next week’s lotto numbers.

If we are good enough, we will be there at the end of the season.

Injuries and late game fade outs cost us a top 4 finish this season, not the fixtures.
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Mushroom Re:Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #5

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Perhaps, but which other team in the last 8 matches of the season plays 6 teams from the previous top 8 plus one that missed top 8 by percentage?

And at the other end has members able to attend a home game twice before Round 7?

The league's own website analysts put Freo as 4th hardest draw, behind Brisbane, Sydney and Port. For the team that finished 10th. Subject of this thread is bang on, I'd say.

www.afl.com.au/news/1255238/who-has-the-...n-your-clubs-fixture
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Purple Shades Re:Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #6

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4 of the 6 from last seasons top 8 could be crap next season and we could end up with the softest finish to the season, we don’t know.

This time last year people were lining up to have two shots at Hawthorn, which backfired on some of them.

But I’ll take the numbers for next week’s lotto if you have them.
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Mushroom Re:Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #7

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On average, 2 teams drop out of the top 8.

My name's Alan Farquaad Lewinowski. I have next week's lotto numbers. But I'll only give you two of them because the rest need to be shared by North Melbourne and Carlton. Just because you are inconsequential to me.
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Joe Nobody Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #8

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At the start of last season, the Hawks had what was rated as 5th hardest draw (I think…..it may have been 7th) but post-season the draw was reviewed based on results and it turns out they had the 7th easiest.
Hopefully something similar happens with our draw.
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Quasimodo Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #9

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If we are good enough we win.
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expat Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #10

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That's right. If the guys perceive this to be a really tough draw, then that will mentally prepare them for what's to come, and we will hit the ground running.
Let's bring it on.
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Purple Shades Re:Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #11

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If we are on the top of the ladder for the full season, every game will be against teams below us on the ladder, that would be a very easy draw.
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Mushroom Re:Shafted again 2 weeks 3 days ago #12

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Bizkit Shafted again 2 weeks 2 days ago #13

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It's such a disingenuous and simplistic thing to say the fixture doesn't matter and you should just be good enough to beat everyone. It doesn't work that way and you need a lot of luck or things to go your way to win a premiership.

Consider last season where it was so tight to get into finals and give us an extra game against Richmond or North, we could have finished with a home final and a bunch of our injured players back to attack finals. Who knows how far we could have gone. Or you look at Hawthorn who snuck into finals ahead of us with a very soft draw that included 2 games against Richmond, North and Adelaide which they all won. Remove one of those double ups for a tougher opponent and maybe we make it in instead of them.

Similarly, in 2012 Sydney had the bonus of playing two Sydney derby games vs the new kids on the block GWS (GWS won 2 games for the season and finished with a percentage of 46). They belted the hell out of them with two huge percentage boosting wins while the other sides around them on the ladder only got to play them once. As a result, Sydney managed to sneak into 3rd place on the ladder by percentage, only 1 game ahead of 6th place. That extra game vs the Giants effectively earned them the double chance and a softer ride into the GF which they won. A teams draw is very important.

A softer draw allows sides to get ahead of their fixtures, rest players and get them fresh for finals. Playing some easier sides and being able to give Fyfe or Sonny a rest would be incredibly advantageous, especially if it includes resting battered players from travel. It helps you prepare a side for important games and finals, giving you the best chance to go far.

This fixture is a rough one for us with 2 games versus a lot of the top sides from last season. We will have to be that much better than everyone else to give ourselves a good shot.
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Purple Shades Re:Shafted again 2 weeks 2 days ago #14

Purple Shades
Biz, I’m not saying fixtures don’t matter. I’m saying it’s too hard to judge now how difficult our fixtures are for next season.
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