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fradonjan And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #1

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No surprises here.AFL Trades 2024: Fremantle, Richmond remain at odds over asking price for All-Australian forward Shai Bolton
Fremantle and Richmond remain at a stalemate over the asking price for contracted forward Shai Bolton as the trade period stuttered on Tuesday.

The industry belief is the Tigers are wanting the Dockers top two draft picks (currently picks No.10 and No.11) in exchange for the 2022 All-Australian goalsneak who still has four years to run on a deal.

Fremantle are believed to only be willing to part with one of those as well as pick No.18 to land Bolton, who has kicked 165 goals in 135 games since being drafted with pick No.29 in 2016.
Dockers list boss David Walls has already made it clear the club is prepared to use their picks at the draft if the deal for Bolton became too expensive.

Bolton, 25, requested a trade back to WA after eight seasons at the Tigers where he won two premierships (2019 and 2020) but is part of the mass exodus from the wooden spooners.

Richmond have already lost unrestricted free agent Jack Graham who signed with the Eagles on a four-year deal that landed the club a pick at the end of the second round (currently No.42) as compensation.

It was the only deal done on the second day after Jack Darling (North Melbourne) and Alex Neal-Bullen (Adelaide) were traded on Monday.
Bolton is set to be joined by vice-captain Liam Baker (West Coast) and recently crowned club champion Daniel Rioli (Gold Coast) in exiting the club who are set to end up with a big haul of early picks in the upcoming draft.

Fremantle games record holder David Mundy said the recruitment of Bolton could be the final piece in the Dockers’ premiership puzzle.

“The list is capable of playing finals and is Shai that final piece? He’s obviously a very talented player,” Mundy told Wide World of Sports.
Bolton is set to be joined by vice-captain Liam Baker (West Coast) and recently crowned club champion Daniel Rioli (Gold Coast) in exiting the club who are set to end up with a big haul of early picks in the upcoming draft.

Fremantle games record holder David Mundy said the recruitment of Bolton could be the final piece in the Dockers’ premiership puzzle.


“But certainly there would be that pressing need to try to find your last piece. You look at Fremantle’s best 25 or 26 — we think they have got the backline locked in, the midfield looks like it’s coming along really, really nicely.

“It’s the forward line that still has the question marks. Josh Treacy filled a lot of those gaps this year, but he can’t do it alone. They are going to need something else, and Shai Bolton certainly fits that mould.”

Bolton is contracted until the end of 2028 after signing a lucrative five-year extension in December
“But certainly there would be that pressing need to try to find your last piece. You look at Fremantle’s best 25 or 26 — we think they have got the backline locked in, the midfield looks like it’s coming along really, really nicely.
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purple mao And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #2

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Wake me up on Wednesday week.
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Davo And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #3

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The final piece of the Dockers puzzle is playing well in the last half dozen rounds of the season regardless of who is in the team. Most premiers manage to do this.
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exceed And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #4

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Hopefully we hold our nerve and don’t give away those 2 picks (10 and 11) fir Bolton. He is a mercurial player but inconsistent, but those players often can be.

Some clubs just attract bad karma - in one of the most even and strongest drafts instead of freo being able to load up on 10 plus year talents we are chasing a player with 4 years to run in his contract.

There are reasons why we have under achieved over a 30 year period. Maybe it’s timing or maybe we should never of even entertained such an opportunity with a player that has that much time to run in a contract.

Judging on our prior history, it will be another lost opportunity to get young cheap talent through the door.
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Bizkit And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #5

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The puzzle pieces are all at Fremantle already. We beat both grand finalists this season with one of the youngest sides in the competition, another pre-season of development is all we really need to challenge. Bolton is the additional bonus package if it happens but so too could be any kids we draft.

Freo are in no desperate need of Bolton to challenge for a premiership in 2025 but he would be nice to have. We don't need to fold for Richmond's demands but they sure as hell are committing to the rebuild and need our draft picks. With Tassy on the horizon to cloud future drafts while sides are rebuilding, Richmond desperately need to use this draft.

We can hold out for a good deal on Bolton.
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Gumnut And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #6

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Seems like Ross Lyon and the Saints still sniffing around Andy Brayshaw, probably offering picks 7 and 8. Glad to hear that talks are ongoing to extend his contract .
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fradonjan And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #7

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Have not heard from this guy for a while .Peter Bell has revealed Fremantle have made a strong offer to Richmond for contracted star Shai Bolton as talks remain at a stalemate between the clubs.

The Dockers are believed to have tabled picks No.10 and No.18 in exchange for two-time premiership Tiger, who still has four years left on his contract at Punt Road.

Richmond are chasing the Dockers’ top-two first-round picks (No.10 and No.11) in exchange for the 2022 All-Australian as they look to bolster their already stacked draft hand.
Fremantle list boss David Walls has repeatedly said the Dockers are prepared to walk away if the deal becomes too expensive, with this year’s strong draft crop also desirable from their point of view.

Bell, the club’s general manager of football talent, strategy and special projects, said the Dockers were hopeful they could land Bolton before the trade period ends next Wednesday.

“We’ve gone in with what we consider to be a really strong offer. As everyone’s aware the draft is very strong, so the offer we’ve put forward is strong on any given year, but particularly this year we believe it to be a strong offer,” Bell told Trade Radio.
“There’s a fair amount of negotiation to go ... hopefully from a Fremantle perspective we can make it work.”

The Dockers could still on trade their other first-round pick for a future selection as they load up for what could be a pursuit of Sydney star Chad Warner who is out of contract next year.

Bell would not buy into any speculation though that the Dockers could try to lure Warner home to WA as soon as this year.

“He’s a player off immense talent. I think every club in the land would love to have Chad Warner in their line-up,” Bell said.

“He’s Sydney’s player for next year and that’s where we understand things will be.”
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Morgan And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #8

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I'm not sure what Bell's role is at the club anymore. Certainly he's kept a low profile this year. Do you think they've just wheeled him out during the trade period as a reminder about how painful it was to deal with him - good cop/bad cop style - so Brierty seems like the reasonable one?
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fradonjan And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #9

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I think it's called a back burner. Morgan.
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Bizkit And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #10

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David Walls is the main man for us who has sorted drafting and trading. He's been pretty spot on over his tenure with the club and has been the main bloke crafting the young and exciting list we have. I have faith he'll keep shaping the list perfectly.
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ICONDOCKER And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #11

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We’ve been very good at getting the talls but failed at getting smalls to make the grade. A replacement needed for Sonny has been very apparent .
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dddocker And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #12

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So, we have offered 10 and 18 for Bolton. That's to me more than fair. But Richmond wants 10 and 11. If they want that then we need something more than Bolton. My offer would be 10 and 11 for Bolton + 24. That means we have Bolton, 18, 24, 30 and 66. That's still a good hand.
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ChilliEater And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #13

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10+11 for Bolton+their 1st rounder next season, which we use to get Warner.
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Morgan And so it begins, With Barra's(mundy )views. 1 month 3 weeks ago #14

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Richmond's first rounder next year will probably be pick 1, so I'm not sure they'd go for that CE.

I think pick 10 and 18 is very fair, but history suggests that the parties will get a bit entrenched in their position for a week, and then end up with some tinkering around the edges to make it seem like they didn't waste a week acting like petulant children.

I think Bizkit said earlier in the year that this was a pretty deep draft, so getting a second rounder back in the way dddocker suggests might help us, but I feel like Richmond is going to want to take a few swings in this draft, so I can't see them wanting to send a pick back our way.

A lot probably depends on what Bolton's manager thinks about the deal. If he thinks the Freo offer is fair then Freo can stand their ground a bit without alienating Bolton and his management.
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