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TOPIC: Who's right ?

fradonjan Who's right ? 1 month 3 weeks ago #1

fradonjan
Big discrepancies between coaches and umps.
I think votes should be given by a selection of recent ex players and independent commentators. Changing each year. Also change the name it's not VFl ya tossers.
Umps have no idea .coaches are way better.www.afl.com.au/news/1228575/surprise-bog...rownlow-medal-shocks
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Raglan Matt Who's right ? 1 month 3 weeks ago #2

Raglan Matt
None of them have any idea, going on Josh Treacy's polling.
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Noddy Who's right ? 1 month 3 weeks ago #3

Noddy
What’s Richard Goyder accountable for? The umpiring department administration needs a clean out.
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Morgan Who's right ? 1 month 3 weeks ago #4

Morgan
Good luck finding an 'independent commentator'.

The umpires aren't the best judges of who played the best footy, but they are probably the most neutral. The coaches votes are the best indicator of who the best players are, but if there were any real stakes to the coaches award they'd start gaming the system to reward their own players.
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guy smiley Who's right ? 1 month 3 weeks ago #5

guy smiley
Surely the two awards are different and comparing them this way is a distracting irrelevancy...

coaches are going to rate their own players for following instructions and other performance measures, opposition players for being most effective in stopping that...

the Umps as we should know are voting on their view of the best and fairest players.

These are two different categories. Or, as we like to mutter in the trenches,

it's all bullshit.
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Purple Shades Re:Who's right ? 1 month 3 weeks ago #6

Purple Shades
The Brownlow still carries some prestige but in reality it’s just another award. There are plenty of them now, every radio station, newspaper and football show has one, there is the coaches one and then this is just the umpires award.

It is losing its shine though.
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Nodgey Who's right ? 1 month 3 weeks ago #7

Nodgey
I struggle with Butters getting bulk votes in an award with 'fairest' in its name. But on the other hand, I kind of like the umps giving him votes based presumably on his attacking effectiveness, whereas he likely missed out on coaches votes due to 'structures' and defensive efforts.
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Noddy Who's right ? 1 month 3 weeks ago #8

Noddy
It’s unrealistic to expect four field umpires charged with applying the rules of the game, who often can’t do that consistently, to also pick out the best three players on the day. If you can’t see, you can’t see.

I don’t know any of her music but apparently Katy Perry has just released a shocker of an album. Fox sport ‘ We only want your bangers’: AFL at odds with Katy Perry over Grand Final entertainment’. Should be a fun half time event.

Is there anything the AFL does well?
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