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TOPIC: Baker

blockerhall Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #1

blockerhall
Still don't get it. Not before, not now. Why are we supposedly so into him? I have him behind Switta and Freddy, maybe in front of Emmett but probably not for long. Probably equal with O'Meara, whom, lets face it, we have struggled to really have impact from. Although I enjoyed his game yesterday. Surely we are re-thinking our alleged enthusiasm for him? He can Air BnB his new house in Mt Pleasant, or go to the screaming fowl.
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PhilGilbert Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #2

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Agreed. Acted like a bit of a d*ckhead on several occasions during yesterday’s game so don’t see him fitting in. He’s also not that good.
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Purple Shades Re:Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #3

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Same, I didn’t real have an opinion on him either way until it was reported that we were interested in recruiting him. I watched yesterday’s game with interest to see how he went, and it’s a no from me.
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ICONDOCKER Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #4

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I think he’s indicated his preferred destination in the manner of his carry on yesterday.
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Bizkit Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #5

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I've always been against this potential trade, especially for the reported price. He's an average player who has a bit of mongrel but he's small, slow and an inside player. We have far better inside midfielders and he isn't much of a half forward (30 goals from the previous 3 years combined).

We have better players for those roles at present and wasting salary cap and draft picks on him would be a huge blunder. When topping up your list for a flag tilt, there are certain criteria you want to look at.

I) Firstly, is the player of a high quality? Baker is average.

II) If not, is he a young player with improvement ahead? No, he will be 27 next year and is at his peak.

III) Does he fill a hole in your list? He'd sit behind a long list of inside midfielders where Brodie and Erasmus can't get a game (let alone any potential midfielders we draft with our 3 first round picks). He also hasn't really played much as a half forward but would also be well down the pecking order there.

IV) Is he very cheap or free? Baker is not a free agent so we will have to pay for him. A lot of Eastern state media have him at minimum 1 first round draft pick with some suggesting 2. Both of those are outrageous suggestions. He'd be at most a mid to late 2nd round pick given he probably has a few years left and isn't particularly good (he played almost every game for the last 3yrs and averaged 19 touches, many of them not particularly damaging).

V) Will it hurt the growth of your existing players? Yes. He would limit the games we're able to give to our existing youth.

VI) Do you need experienced players? No. There's an existing core of older players like Fyfe, Sonny, Pearce and even JOM however a lot of our core youth are now at the stage where they are leading the team themselves. We have no need for just experience.

VIII) Do you have salary cap room? We do have some ready for a big play but that needs to be invested in either someone big who makes a large impact or retaining existing players/youth who are coming out of contract soon. A lot of our youth is tied up however we can always renegotiate contracts to front end contracts for now and carry a war chest into future years. There's no need to throw our salary cap room at someone who adds little value.

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Hard pass. We don't need him and he would set back our development and chances of improvement.
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Sloby Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #6

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That’s what I call a compelling argument.

I hope the Freo decision makers on recruitment don’t do something monumentally stupid on Baker.

I reckon if we can’t get what we want trade wise this year we roll over picks to next year and see what unfolds.

Surely as we get better established players in the top echelon will want to come across.
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themagoos Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #7

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If that was his audition for us he pratfalled the whole way through. Apart from acting like an arse he just wasn't any good.
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hypen Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #8

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Baker an average footballer who is slow. Wow!
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Corporal Agarn Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #9

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Agreee with the average, both in ability but also in speed.
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Davo Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #10

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Baker? Yeah, nah
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Noddy Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #11

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If we went for him it could be the most stupid thing we’ve done, and there’s more than a few instances in the filing cabinet. Thanks Collingwood, but no thanks Richmond.
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Morgan Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #12

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I like him more than most. 20 touches and a goal a game is pretty good. Coaches probably love how hard-nosed and versatile he is. I like that he plays a bit angry.

If we win a final this year then I wouldn't be totally against something like a late first round pick going out, with a late second next year coming back. Maybe chuck in Sturt if JLo's not going to play him, and consider whatever we get for Erasmus when his management cracks it and asks for a trade.

Richmond might want more, in which case tell them to get stuffed.
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Dockermus Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #13

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It’s Richmond, so just stop at telling them to get stuffed. Freo don’t want or need their cast-offs.
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Bizkit Baker 1 month 2 weeks ago #14

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Baker averages half a goal a game or less in every season except this one so I wouldn't be counting on him to add to our scoring.

I didn't even raise my biggest issue about Baker that makes him a hell no from me. He's an OOFTIT fan who idolised Daniel Kerr. Do I need to say more?
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