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TOPIC: De Going

Purple Shades De Going 2 months 1 day ago #1

Purple Shades
Jordan De Goey has reportedly rejected the latest contract from Collingwood due to a behavioural clause being included. If he doesn’t have enough self control to behave himself for a few years I would doubt any other club would take the risk.
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Corporal Agarn De Going 2 months 1 day ago #2

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Purple Shades Re:De Going 2 months 1 day ago #3

Purple Shades
Thanks for the link Corp, fair old wrap sheet - should be happy that he still has a spot on an AFL list.
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shane Re:De Going 2 months 23 hours ago #4

shane
I think one of the lessons from Hawthorn is that football clubs need to take big steps back from this belief that they are entitled to control the lives of the players outside the workplace.

A behaviour clause sounds like a way of getting around AFLPA negotiated conditions.
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hypen De Going 2 months 23 hours ago #5

hypen
It's appalling. The rate they are offering is lower because of his past infractions. And now they say you may not have the right to earn that reduced rate should we feel any future infractions warrant it.

DeGoey is around the same age as when Martin turned it around. If I was Longmuir I'd be on the phone. There's your player we need.
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purplepower De Going 2 months 23 hours ago #6

purplepower
Top player but he behaves like a risky idiot…. I dare not make him accountable, but he’s obviously know pleb….
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Bizkit De Going 2 months 10 hours ago #7

Bizkit
I'm surprised at peoples reactions, backing the player who continues to make indiscretions and tarnish the image of the club and game he represents. I would think making a player accountable for his actions is perfectly reasonable and if anything, helps ensure he doesn't continue to break the law and flaunt his position.

There are many professions where breaking the law and bringing the company/product etc into disrepute will see you lose your job or ability to earn money. I don't see this as any different. In fact I encourage clubs to help punish players who do horrible things and keep them accountable.
Nathan: When did you get balls?
Simon: I've always had balls you've just never seen them.
Nathan: That's the gayest thing I've ever heard.
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Raglan Matt, purplepower said You Beaut

shane De Going 2 months 10 hours ago #8

shane
I think everyone should be equally accountable for their actions. He should not get special treatment.

If he has done something that warrants sacking, then sack him. If he has done something that they would have liked to sack him for but couldn't, then change the rules for everyone.
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expat De Going 2 months 9 hours ago #9

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Standup and be counted...
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hypen De Going 2 months 9 hours ago #10

hypen
It's having your cake and eating it too. If they were offering what he is worth then fair enough. But my point was the rate reflects the risk. You can't double dip.

That's a dangerous precedent.
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Bizkit De Going 2 months 9 hours ago #11

Bizkit
What he's worth is a clause for all the off field misdemeanors he's had. The number of games missed and PR nightmares he's created means he will need that clause.
Nathan: When did you get balls?
Simon: I've always had balls you've just never seen them.
Nathan: That's the gayest thing I've ever heard.
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hypen De Going 2 months 9 hours ago #12

hypen
Then Collingwood should rescind their offer.
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Morgan De Going 2 months 9 hours ago #13

Morgan
Isn’t this the system largely working as expected? Collingwood has offered the terms it is comfortable offering, and de Goey can tell them to shove it. In de Goey’s case he’s a restricted free agent so he should be able to get to his future employer of choice.

de Goey didn’t do anything illegal when he went to Bali during the break and consensually pawed an instamodel on camera; but given his history that landed differently to if it were any other player. That has consequences for the club. Collingwood has decided that de Goey has used up all his demerit points, and are offering a contract with a different set of rules for him with much less wiggle-room than for other players. I’d prefer that than the club overreach by tightening their policies for all players because they were worried about one.
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itscraptacular De Going 2 months 3 hours ago #14

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Club (via contract): "You must not find yourself detained for behaviour we find difficult for our brand, including drunken escapades in Bali or New York."

Player: "I won't sign that, because FREEEEEDOM!"

Club: OK, thanks. We have nothing further to discuss.

I actually don't have a problem with this and it tends to weed out the un-artistically tattoo'd players.
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