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TOPIC: Henry in, Banfield out

Walter the baker Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #15

Walter the baker
RM, I’ve got nothing against Henry. I hope he develops into the player his draft pick suggests he should be. I just don’t think he is ready for the AFL yet. His body has matured this year and he should be in good shape after another pre-season. My point isn’t intended to diminish Henry’s long term potential, I just think other players provide greater flexibility as medical subs at the moment - Banfield being the best example.

As for Colyer, I’m not a big wrap on Travis and I don’t expect to see much of him in the future (see previous post). Colyer wouldn’t be my first choice for medical sub (as Banfield offers more flexibility and I’d also like to give Crowden a crack) but if you want proof that he’s outperformed Liam across almost all stats this year (including tackles) just go to the following link.

www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_co...2=6726&fid2=S&type=A
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Raglan Matt Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #16

Raglan Matt
Stats are useful sometimes, but they don't show the positive or negative effect a player has on the game and his teams chances. Colyer gets all his footy outside, Henry is usually in traffic, and is a lot better at choosing the best option. No high bombs into the forward 50 from him.

I guess we can't all agree all of the time.
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Walter the baker Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #17

Walter the baker
No probs RM. Let's park the Colyer bit, he wont be much of a factor post 2022 and has become a distractor from the main point of the post, i.e. Banfield should have been the med sub last weekend.
At least we can agree that we have high hopes for Henry moving forward.
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pollyanna Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #18

pollyanna
I'm big on Henry and always will be. But whether you're knocking him, Acres, Colyer or anyone else that plays that position on the field remember that the forward flank is the graveyard position in football. There's more action at Karrakatta in the middle of the night.
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Gumnut Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #19

Gumnut
I'm really troubled by the development of Henry. I see him as one of the most gifted players on our list but for some reason he is still a fringe player when he should be a regular. One reason I think is that Sonny Walters occupies his spot in the side as a guy who can hurt the opposition with his skills even with minimal disposals. His pressure at times is elite.
I see him as our potential answer to Shai Bolton at Richmond, a similarly gifted individual who has taken a few years to develop and is now recognised as one of the most damaging and influential players in the competition.
Maybe we need to look at how Richmond have handled his development and replicate that with Liam because at the moment it 's not really happening. We need him to be hitting his best when Sonny does retire so he can be a walk up replacement.
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shane Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #20

shane
The thing about him is that he weighs nothing and his best skill at the moment is going to be his speed, but for some reason he has been under the impression that it's his job to go and get the ball.

I think he's getting better at positioning himself for the last couple of games. Frederick was the same. It took him a while to work out that he needed to be in a good spot, not chase down his own ball all the time. Then it took about a month of being in the right spot before anyone gave him the ball.

If they stick with Henry this year, he'll gradually start to be given the football more.
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rogerrocks Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #21

rogerrocks
Frederick was terrible in his first few games. He'd run at players really fast, and they'd sell him the dummy every time.

I'm happy with Henry. He's developing well. You couldn't fail to notice his improvement this season. He'll be a regular soon.
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SaltyDog Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #22

SaltyDog
Banfield is getting a rough deal at the moment. I understand that he doesn’t look like he’s much good, but somehow he manages to kick 2 or 3 goals every game he plays. And yet we keep dropping him
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Noddy Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #23

Noddy
Henry is good and will get better. But he hasn’t proven he’s worthy of a regular spot in a team which is trying to see how far we can progress in the finals. In a tough game we’d essentially be one down.
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dddocker Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #24

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Why are we not talking about Erasmus and Johnson both of whom are ball winners and can kick goals? I think if Tabs is out v the WCE then Banfield is the most logical choice. However we need to get AFL games into Erasmus and Johnson. Both these guys were not far behind Tucker at Peel in the last few weeks and Tucker proved he should be in the starting 22. Do we give Sturt a go against WCE?
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Bizkit Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #25

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I think people have an exaggerated view of Banfield because of a few decent games. He's been good at stages this season and also gone missing plenty of times.

He's played 19 games this season with 7 of those as the sub and only 3 of those where he didn't get on the field. He's kicked 2 goals in 5 games and one game of 4 goals with the majority of the rest resulting in no goals and very little impact.

They aren't stats that place him in must pick territory and to maintain his spot in the side, he needs to do a bit more both with and without the ball. If players aren't performing at a high level, they're at risk of losing their spot to kids who need game time to experience the level and develop their game.

It's the problem with being the 22nd player picked at 24yo, it's often a line ball decision between picking them or picking a younger player with more talent and potential who will be more inconsistent. Development will sometimes win that battle.
Nathan: When did you get balls?
Simon: I've always had balls you've just never seen them.
Nathan: That's the gayest thing I've ever heard.
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expat Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #26

expat
So does Banfield replace TABS at CHF and Switkowski as the sub? Henry as emergency.
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cletus Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #27

cletus
Can you have Banfield and Freddy in the same forward line?

That's the problem. Especially if you are gonna play 2 talls(Tabs & Lobb), and three smalls... Schulz, Walters & Switoski/Colyer

Fredericks and Banfield aboutvthe same hieght, but , I'd 'lay London to a brick' that you're gonna go with Freddies pace & 'xfactor'.

What we really need ia 'genuine pixk picket small forward (ie The Wizard, or , Ballas, or Mikey in his prime) and then you don't have to go with the 3 smalls, who, all have good attributes, but, aren't 'elite' enough to be the 1 small forward we need.

Irrespective of what Champion Data reckon...
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expat Henry in, Banfield out 1 month 3 weeks ago #28

expat
So Johnson to debut at CHF, while Banfield as emergency and Switta as sub?
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