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TOPIC: The head is not sacrosanct

Awake The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #1

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Just ask Sam Switkowski.
All news outlets I have accessed have all claimed that the knee to the head was accidental.
I disagree. There was not any attempt to place the knee anywhere else except around the head. To invoke an often used phrase 'there was insufficient attempt" to not hit the head.
I think the rules have to change. If a similar incident had occurred when both players were not involved in a marking contest and similar damage resulted then the NM player would have been out for a week or two
So I am suggesting that if you make contact with the head in a marking contest, and do damage, then a similar penalty should be applied.
The rule should have been changed after the Natanui/Sandilands incident.
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Tricolour The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #2

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What I find interesting about this is that there was much discussion recently about Darcy raising his knee into Pittonet’s knee at a ruck contest and injuring him, and whether Darcy should have to change the way he plays or the rules change to protect ruckmen’s knees.
And yet when a player launches knee first into the back of someone’s head, putting him out of that game and the next, no one bats an eyelid.
The arguments seem to always revolve around intent - the assumption is made that Horne-Francis only intended to go for the ball, but Darcy didn’t have his eye on the ball and therefore must have intended to hurt Pittonet.
If it were up to me I would take the whole notion of intent out of the argument altogether. Except on very rare occasions, you cannot claim to know if a player is genuinely contesting or sneakily trying to hurt an opponent. It shouldn’t even be relevant. In soccer if you’re trying to get the ball off an opponent but take his ankles instead, the ref doesn’t care what your intention was: it’s simply a free kick every time you miss the ball but get the man.
The AFL could end of a lot arguments by just making contact to an opponent’s head an offence regardless of whether the offender misjudged his leap or was deliberately trying to hurt someone.
That is, if the AFL genuinely want to protect the head. Limiting concussions very likely means making the game less exciting to watch.
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Yossarian The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #3

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You’re kidding right?
What Horne-Francis did - you can NOT take that out of the game. Unfortunate for Switta, but that’s sport.
Next you’ll be wanting to remove the goalposts for being a hazard in the field of play, since Shultz almost concussed himself.
Sheesh!
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Quasimodo The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #4

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Sometimes you’re the windscreen sometimes you’re the bug.

It’s a contact sport. It happens.
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Noddy The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #5

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Times have changed. I think there’s a duty of care required not to do something dangerous, like knee a player in the head. If players can learn not or move on the mark or show dissent, they can learn not to whack or knee other players in the head.

Surely there must be an effort to reduce brain injuries to players?
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shane The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #6

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I thought that we should have left Schultz off the ground after he cannoned into the goal post. That struck me as lacking in taking the utmost caution.
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Raglan Matt The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #7

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I don't think Schultz cannoned into the goalpost, I think he was catapulted into the goalpost.
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Blue1red1 The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #8

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Do we do a base line test on the players before they enter the game? That way you can compare it to after a suspected head event?
I mean, to use a current situation, did anyone assess the players at the Eagles who were at the Hippie club after the game? Pretty Sure most of them were concussed and I find it deplorable that no one is calling out the Eagles for their lack duty of care as a club to those players.
Sheesh!
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pollyanna The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #9

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Imagine the carry-on if Hodor smashed into the goal post like Shultz - there would've been a delay that could've pushed the end time into the Saturday timeslot.
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Raglan Matt The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #10

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24 hours to replace a goalpost? That's a bit rich, even for Gil's lot.
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Tricolour The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #11

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Yossarian, I acknowledged that - it would change the game. Either players would make a concerted effort to improve their technique by climbing on someone’s shoulders instead of their head, or we’d see a fair few players getting suspended that never would have previously - and we as fans would whinge endlessly about it when it’s our players.
And that’s fine - we don’t have to make any changes at all. But we can’t have it both ways - we can’t expect the AFL to protect player’ heads, but continue to accept players giving each other concussions because whoops my aim was a bit off.
We know more about the long term effects of concussions now. Are we happy to see players with dementia in their 40s to maintain our level of entertainment?
The ‘it’s a contact sport, accidents happen’ argument doesn’t hold water with me as rugby union has taken a hardline with head contact and players have adapted.
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Corporal Agarn The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #12

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Might as well ban anyone trying to take a mark over their opponent then because when you jump off one leg to gain height the only way you can do it properly is to lift your other leg up, meaning the knee is going to come into contact with some part of your opponent.
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Mushroom The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #13

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SHould Brodie Smith be suspened for knocking himself out last weekend, recklessley crashing into the turf from a height?

Should the turf be banned for doing the nothing that resulted in Brodie Smith's head hitting it? It's always there. It's always hard if you hit it from a height. Known risk and a player was injured. Two weeks, no games allowed at Adelaide Oval.

We're getting into Mumbo Mick dotage territory here. And sacrosanct sounds like one of those $10 words when a $1 will do.
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Noddy The head is not sacrosanct 1 month 3 weeks ago #14

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Magic mushroom stuff right there.
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