TOPIC: Cockburn training ground

CaptSnooze Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #15

CaptSnooze
This feels a lot like 'state of the art' modern facilities designed for microphones only with zero resonance, that turn out to be a graveyard for acoustic music.
Don't you understand, just look at it, can't you lot see it's state of the art? We've invested <$millions> to get this shiny.. thing!

Meanwhile the illustrious designer has taken their cut, padded their CV and moved on to the next highly-paid gig.

That said, our ladies seem to be very very fit and relatively free of injuries.
Wet track today - Turbo time.
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Morgan Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #16

Morgan
If the experience of Docklands or Optus is any guide, they’ll bust out a Clegg Hammer and I’m sure the readings will be within the acceptable range.

The problem is the objective measurement and the players’ experience have diverged for a while now. Which means it’s either in the players heads, or dropping a 2kg weight once and measuring how it bounces doesn’t accurately capture the experience of 90kg blokes running 10km on the surface.

I’d guess the latter, but I’m not a turf scientician.
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shane Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #17

shane
The experience being that you don't believe the science. The iffy part seems to be the biology not the geology.

The knowledge of the how the firmness of the ground impacts the body of an AFL footballer over a season of training and playing doesn't seem to be complete.
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slammen Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #18

slammen
Sumich calls it like he see's it, don't blame the messenger , fix the problem.

Solution, Aeration – Lots of foot traffic and wear causes hard compacted soil. Which is not an ideal surface to be competing on. Aerating the soil regularly allows oxygen, nutrients and water to penetrate to the roots of the turf, promoting health grass and a nice soft base for sport.
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Morgan Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #19

Morgan
I agree that the biological impacts are uncertain, but that’s not where the divergence starts. It starts when the Glegg hammer says there is enough give in the ground but the players and coaches say there isn’t - when they say things like ‘just walk on it and you’ll see how hard it is’

It’s not to say the instrument isn’t reliable, or that it is impossible to devise a valid, objective measure of how soft a ground is for an AFL player to run on it, but it’s reasonable to ask the question of whether the response of a 2kg weight from half a metre replicates the human experience of a large human running on a ground for two hours.

I alternate sleeping on two different mattresses at the moment: one good one on my bed, and a rubbish skinner one next to my young kid’s bed. If I used a Clegg hammer on both I reckon I’d get a very similar result, but being roughly 80kg and being on them for 7 hours (if I’m lucky) I can tell you the human experience is very different.
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pollyanna Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #20

pollyanna
This whole covid vaccine conversation has thrown a new word up:

Efficacy - which comes from the Latin phrase:
'Eff, I can't see hey' (which is what that moron Sumo suffers from).
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expat Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #21

expat
I say pump some nitrogen into the top soil. Surely that will lighten it up...
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shane Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #22

shane
It doesn't need to 'feel' right. All that means is that it feels harder than the one you usually play on.
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Corporal Agarn Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #23

Corporal Agarn
Yes Polly, what was wrong with using the word 'effectiveness?"

And it's also brought up the word shedding, and not the hair variety. You can be a shedder or a spreader.

I think they just like making up new words.
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docbert Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #24

docbert
Isn’t shedding bloke time out the back with an old couch, tv and beer?
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Raglan Matt Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #25

Raglan Matt
Why do horse trainers walk the track with an umbrella? Because they don't trust the penetrometer readings. If players are copping injuries consistent with running on hard surfaces, and are saying the surface feels hard, I would through the Clegg Hammer off the CBH jetty, into Cockburn sound, put Cockburn Central up for sale and head back to Freo.
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Walter the baker Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #26

Walter the baker
It’s ok everyone, relax, I’ve got this one.

It’s “throw the hammer” not “through the hammer”

... carry on.
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Raglan Matt Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #27

Raglan Matt
Bloody Hypen-correct.
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Corporal Agarn Cockburn training ground 2 months 1 week ago #28

Corporal Agarn
Thanks Walter Thor The Baker.
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