TOPIC: Jordan Clark

purple kit Jordan Clark 1 month 4 days ago #43

purple kit
Thanks Biz, a lot has been said about the elite talls, what are your thoughts on Lane as a late pick/rookie selection, seems like he needs a bit of development but could he be a long term replacement for Lobb in 3-4 years?

Edit: sorry meant Neale as a late/rookie pick, Lane will probably go earlier than that.
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Detox Jordan Clark 1 month 4 days ago #44

Detox
I think pick 10 is about right for Jordan Clark. He was pick 16 in a way stronger draft and has showed he can play at the level. I think he can probably slot onto the wing for us. If we can get a later pick going back the other way that would be good. Pick 28 isn't going to get it done.
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Bizkit Jordan Clark 1 month 3 days ago #45

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You can argue Clark's worth pick 10 but the thing is, we need to be looking for value in trades. The whole point of getting WA kids back here is to get them at value, not pay above and beyond what they are worth. As a kid who can't get In his sides best 22 and has faced a lot of injury issues, it'd be a huge over commitment to pay pick 10 for him in what is a pretty good draft that should have tonnes of value.

If we can get him cheap then I'd be happy to pay for Clark but otherwise, it's a pass and wait till his contract ends and we can get him for good value. If our list were at the top of their game and competing for a premiership then you can justify paying that sort of price to bring someone in but we're still on the tail end of a rebuild and developing a lot of players. Realistically we'd hope to battle it out to make the top 8 next season and top 4 after that. When we reach that point you can justify overspending at the trade table in order to chase a premiership and sacrifice the future.

Neale is a decent chance to go as a later pick, an athletically gifted talent who can play that forward/ruck role. He's someone with a huge upside and scope for improvement but can be a little up and down. I'd be happy to see him on our list with a late pick but given our requirements with NGA's, it will be difficult to see it happening. he could go earlier if a club really liked what they saw and need to develop someone for that role.

The likely scenario for Freo is to use pick 10 (or wherever it is after all the bids and compensation) on a talented mid/winger, a bid for B Walker comes right before pick 28 and that gets absolved paying for him. Any later picks are then absorbed by a bid for Western in the 30's and we have no picks left. We then use our rookie positions to fill up with other NGA's (C Walker, maybe Haddow or Alvarez) and possibly a developing ruckman.
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bozza Jordan Clark 1 month 3 days ago #46

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You take the best player available at 10. I am not an expert on the kids coming through this year but I would be pretty happy if the club spent that pick to land Clark. He is only 2 years older than the players to be drafted this year.
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purple kit Jordan Clark 1 month 3 days ago #47

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I like the look of Clark, but pick 10 is too much to pay, either they would have to hand us back pick 34 as well to help us cover a bid for western or we trade 10 down to a pick in the teens plus a pick in the 30’s then trade the pick in the teens for Clark. Thus also covering a bid for western.
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demo1 Jordan Clark 1 month 3 days ago #48

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The other danger with Bizs tactic on this one is like a lot of players two years in with talent - they really explode in their 3rd and 4th years. Geel then dont want him to go, he gets a local Mrs and gets paid well..
Then we dont get him home and he becomes a star..
Pick 10 this year may be a dud. We know what we are getting with Clark.
Sometimes you pay a little overs, sometimes you play a little unders..
Hopefully we can get something back in return to sweeten it our way..
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Detox Jordan Clark 1 month 3 days ago #49

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I'm not with you on this one Biz. You said we were over paying on Brad Hill with pick 23. He won the Doig and then we flipped him for a lot more than that. Jordan Clark would be a good get at pick 10. You might have a little of the 'younger brother syndrome'. Draft kids always look good until they actually play against men in the big league's. We can follow the career of pick 10 in this years draft vs Jordan Clark in the years to come.
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hypen Jordan Clark 1 month 3 days ago #50

hypen
That was very tasteful not to bring up that dud SPS, Detox.

Kudos.
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demo1 Jordan Clark 1 month 2 days ago #51

demo1
The way it is looking pick 10 may end up actually being pick 16 or 17..Give me Clark any day of the week..
Saints have done a deal with Adel so they should/will get a first round compo pick for Crouch giving them pick 1 and 2. Logan Mc may aswell pack his bag to Adelaide now..
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391 Jordan Clark 1 month 2 days ago #52

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Not all draft years are created equal.

2018 pretty solid - not many misses there

1 Sam Walsh
2 Jack Lukosius
3 Izak Rankine
4 Max King
5 Connor Rozee
6 Ben King
7 Bailey Smith
8 Tarryn Thomas
9 Chayce Jones
10 Nick Blakey
11 Jye Caldwell
12 Zak Butters
13 Isaac Quaynor
14 Jackson Hately
15 Jordan Clark
16 Ned McHenry
17 Sam Sturt
18 Xavier Duursma


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_AFL_draft
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Walter the baker Jordan Clark 1 month 2 days ago #53

Walter the baker
The bad news:
It’s now being reported that Clark is likely to stay at Geelong
The good news:
It’s being reported by the West, so it’s meaningless.
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purplepower Jordan Clark 1 month 2 days ago #54

purplepower
I’m not surprised, trade time is about to start and Geelong will play hardball
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fradonjan Jordan Clark 1 month 1 day ago #55

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His contract money wise goes up a lot for the next two years .Exciting WA youngster Jordan Clark appears set to remain at Geelong next season, despite facing the potential heartbreak of missing out on a premiership tomorrow.

Clark, who has played just three games in an injury-affected second season, was left out of the Cats’ grand final team as expected.

The 20-year-old will make it onto the Gabba – but only to represent Geelong in the grand final sprint at quarter-time.

While his plight has caught the attention of both WA clubs, Clark’s contract situation makes any return home during the upcoming trade period a remote prospect.

Having played on a fixed initial contract for the past two seasons, his wage is understood to jump significantly next year after signing a healthy two-year extension early last season.

Clark was drafted with pick 15 in the 2018 national draft and played 18 games last year, finishing equal fifth in the Rising Star award.
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fradonjan Jordan Clark 1 month 1 day ago #56

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It is thought Fremantle would have to offer up their first draft pick to tempt Geelong to consider a trade, while the Dockers’ salary cap issues form another stumbling block.

West Coast do not have a first-round draft pick, for the third-straight season, after giving it to Geelong as part of the Tim Kelly deal last year.

Clark has received approval from the WA Government to return to Perth for his post-season break and will serve 14 days of quarantine on arrival.
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