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pollyanna RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #15

pollyanna
Umpie thinking:
"Oh, I don't think he had enough time to properly dispose of the ball..."
"Oh, I don't think he ever had proper possession of the ball..."
"Oh, I think he was making an attempt to properly dispose of the ball..."
"Oh, I think he didn't really pull the ball underneath him in that pack..."
"Oh, I think the ball just got spilled out in that tackle, probably unintentionally..."

No, it's not debatable, there's no need for any kind of discretionary call or speculative thinking - it's actually quite simple:

BAM! Turnover - cough it up quickly or you'll get 50m against you, ya hopeless fool.
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hypen RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #16

hypen
All I know is the football isn't as fun as it used to be.
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Corporal Agarn RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #17

Corporal Agarn
So true Hypen.
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Mushroom RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #18

Mushroom
Get rid of the 50m arcs?

The need for 6:6:6 is now passe and the arcs are nothing but stat and commentary making artefacts.

I also reckon the tackle/ holding the ball ratio is skewed by stats keepers and what they call a tackle these days.

If you reckon just kicking it longer is the answer to attractive footy, prepare for disappointment as the game turns into even more of a kick to pack, no mark, scramble on the floor, ball up. It'll be like kick-to-kick in the schoolyard but with umpires.

It's not that bad, just stop f-ing with it. Get rid of runners. Get rid of all in-quarter coaching. Let the players play and you'll get the Charlie Camerons etc. running amock and making footy attractive and about taking speccies and kicking goals again.
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Raglan Matt RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #19

Raglan Matt
POlly, you missed "Yeeessss, the cameras will be on me while I throw it up"

Clarkson actually provided the reason why paying more free kicks will work, when he said " please pay them, for us and against us, we’ll adjust.”
The coaches will force players to play to the rules, if the rules are going to be enforced. If the coaches think they can force the umpires and AFL to change to what they want, a la the flood, the Roos/Lyon game plan etc, they will instruct their players to play to that style. It's all in the hands of the umpires, to open the game up by enforcing the rules. Don't blame the players or the coaches, blame the administrators and the umpires board.
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Docker by the Sea RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #20

Docker by the Sea
Coaches are paid to win and sacked when they lose. It’s not their job to make a spectacle and if they play attractive losing football they’re not around for long.
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shane RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #21

shane
They are paid to sell tickets to a show. If the show is no good then you can't sell tickets.
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OGS RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #22

OGS
What about getting rid of ugly and time consuming boundary throw in by playing with the last touch oob rule like in the womens game and i think sanfl
Also any kick backwards is banned or becomes play on and maybe the minimum length of kick for a mark to be paid becomes 25m
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Hamihill RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #23

Hamihill
If you can tap the ball on open handed or handball over your head and not actually throw it to me means you had prior if you choose not to tap it but collect it it's holding the ball
Bit like the ruck man
Can't have it both ways
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hypen RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #24

hypen
Mushroom, agree with all that, except it really is that bad. Everything you said will help but until such time as players can't run themselves to the point of no return and then come off to recover the game will stay the same. That's what has changed; the use of interchange. They shouldn't be physically capable of getting to every contest and congesting everything.
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Raglan Matt RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #25

Raglan Matt
Go back to 20 players, no interchange.
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Drubbing RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #26

Drubbing
The big part of the problem is the way many of the rules are enforced. Mostly badly - by semi professionals, some of whom are biased, cheating scumbags. I think that's at the root of what Clarkson said.

Coaches coach to the way the rules are applied. That's why you get players holding the ball in tackles. 8/10 it'll create a stoppage and ball up. If it were the other way around, coaches wouldn't drill players to keep it in and hold up play.
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Raglan Matt RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #27

Raglan Matt
I see the AFFL are aware of the PR disaster that would result from a scoreless draw, they have canned the Tigers v eagles fixture.
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number 2 RL coaching school 3 years 9 months ago #28

number 2
The other waste of time rule is the ruck nomination. Just throw it in the air and get moving - don't give teams 2 minutes to form a mob while you clarify who is and isn't able to legally wrestle for it.
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