TOPIC: Concussion

Tragic Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #1

Tragic
It is reported here that a head injured player must pass a SCAT5 test 5 days before they are allowed to play. I suspect there are some players who will struggle with that test even without a head injury. Whilst I am all for preventing long term repercussions from head knocks, I would like to see some data that shows this new criteria will actually achieve it's stated goal and is not just the AFL being seen to be doing something.
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hypen Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #2

hypen
Couldn't see a team like say, West Coast manipulating the results in any way either.
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The_Yeti Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #3

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Cut it out, hypen.

The slime will have to manipulate the results or they won't be able to field a side. If any of them had better than a room temperature IQ, they would be playing at other clubs.

Going back a bit, could you ever imagine Jacko passing any kind of head assessment? I can't
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pollyanna Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #4

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The reverse numbers thing would get me every time - and I haven't been concussed since 2001.
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Bizkit Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #5

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I've always thought it weird that for things like drink driving, one of the tests is reciting the alphabet backwards. Some people don't even know it forwards let alone what the 26th and then 25th letter is.

This is the same thing where I'm not sure numbers are everyone's go or even the months of the year. There's plenty of people who wouldn't be able to recite numbers or months backwards regardless of traumatic head injuries. I reckon footballers would make up a fair percentage of those people!
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shane Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #6

shane
How do you know if eyes are opening spontaneously versus just regular opening?
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pollyanna Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #7

pollyanna
The effects of concussion definitely extend into later life. I wasn't joking around with my previous post. I was ok to go after three days and did ok for a long time. But I recognise that certain things are probably the result of that incident. Everyone is different.

I read through all those tests that Tragic linked up and found ones where I would stumble. But I'm not expected to front up to a game next week and my livelihood doesn't depend on it.
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shane Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #8

shane
I don't see how it can be done properly without an independent doctor assessing them. Maybe just have an umpire present while it's administered by the club doctor on game day and then a week off if they fail.

It's been demonstrated over the past few years that you can't simply rely on the professionalism of club doctors to put individual player health above the team.
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Morgan Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #9

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I have a few mates in the know at North, and one year North copped some criticism for letting Lachie Hanson back on the field - perhaps prematurely - after he took a knock to the head. Their genuine defence was that Lachie was so bad at cognitive tests when he wasn’t concussed (ie, when they test pre-season) that they didn’t have a reliable baseline with which to test against.
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Bizkit Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #10

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It's hard to test how a brain is functioning if the brain doesn't get through the testing in the first place.

It's clearly a very complex issue to work out and I don't have any solutions but these do seem like pretty stringent rules that are going to restrict healthy players and not necessarily stop those who are concussed from getting a game. I know people who have the alphabet memorised backwards and others who know their stuff and could do it in the worst of states.

There are other components to concussion testing but this part seems like a pretty big stumbling block for most footballers regardless of a concussion.
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moodindigo Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #11

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The club should get Cab Calloway to administer the tests.
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shane Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #12

shane
Approach the wrong people in the carpark in the 90's, Polly?
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R.Lyon Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #13

R.Lyon
He dated Gaff’s mum
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pollyanna Concussion 1 month 2 weeks ago #14

pollyanna
Structural steel beam in the bush - kind of the same I guess - the doc was amazed that I knew the precise measurement between parallel stitching lines.
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